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Rampage · 05-30-2014, 05:13 PM

IF (big if) they can give you 30 more crank HP and 20-30 more foot pounds of torque and keep the warranty intact then this is exactly what all the auto mags/pundits and people on here have been saying the car has to have in order to be a decent car.

Now it is not enough? If they get the extra power and you still have a full drive train warranty then it is better then buying aftermarket because aftermarket may void the warranty.

Also did anyone really think that more power from the manufacturer or from an authorized upgrader was going to be free? The old mantra of $100 for each 1HP falls right in line with what this would cost but you would be able to keep your full warranty. Even if Toyota or Subaru does it you will pay dearly for it.

Now, if the upgrade is not included in the factory warranty then this is nothing more than the same expensive aftermarket crap that is being bolted on to the twins now but at an even higher price.

Shagaliscious · 05-30-2014, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

no one takes time to do a search anymore

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65733

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66960

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66016

OICU812 · 05-30-2014, 05:27 PM

Placing bets on 20 more Cosworth threads by next Monday all on same topic that's been already talked about for last month. Any takers that I am wrong?

FerraraZ · 05-30-2014, 06:36 PM

I'm having a hard time justifying the price for all of this. Why would I go with this compared to selecting the same parts myself? Warranty? You'll be fucked by Toyota/Subaru either way if the mechanic is a ****.

Sideways&Smiling · 05-30-2014, 07:26 PM

I think the excitement is because their Stage 2 and Stage 3 kits will also retain OEM warranty.

However, their cost effectiveness is another story. haha.

juliog · 05-30-2014, 07:44 PM

I couldn't care less about OEM warranty. California legal (CARB exempt) parts on the other hand..

cycleboy · 05-30-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingRectumSyndrome

Useless to Californians, as it gets rid of the OEM catalytic converters.

Not just us, it's illegal federally to remove a working cat.

While lots of people are doing it anyway, it could suck to get caught.

In CA, it'd suck when your car turns 6 and has to get a smog check.

Hot Lava · 05-30-2014, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

theres more than that

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66016

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66970

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

no one takes time to do a search anymore

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65733

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66960

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66016

One of the links is to this thread and two are the same thread. Just saying. Keeping the links in this post just because mischief.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101

See, if they had been like, "new connecting rods, new piston shape, higher compression, knife-edge crank, port and polish heads, blah blah blah... 230 WHP NA" it would be different. That's what I expect Cosworth to come up with. Having an exhaust manufacturer with an existing product build you a special version and providing an off-the-shelf tune is not up to par with their reputation.

This guy is on to something. Spend your money on a port and polish. And the rest from a source other than Cosworth.

gymratter · 05-30-2014, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hot Lava

One of the links is to this thread and two are the same thread. Just saying. Keeping the links in this post just because mischief.

i believe the two Cosworth were just merged into one... (the current thread).

mark0006 · 05-30-2014, 10:30 PM

I guess their stage 1 is around $5200, a bit overpriced.

ZionsWrath · 05-30-2014, 10:35 PM

How much for the wing?

Boblhead · 05-31-2014, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

How much for the wing?

I only want the wing since it adds more than 1/2 the horsepower...

OICU812 · 05-31-2014, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

I think the excitement is because their Stage 2 and Stage 3 kits will also retain OEM warranty.

However, their cost effectiveness is another story. haha.

Will await to see if there's any real truth and proof. Hard to believe Toyota/Subaru will fully warranty a non OEM manufactured product ...

OICU812 · 05-31-2014, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark0006

I guess their stage 1 is around $5200, a bit overpriced.

Just " a bit " ? LOL!!!!

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Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	IF (big if) they can give you 30 more crank HP and 20-30 more foot pounds of torque and keep the warranty intact then this is exactly what all the auto mags/pundits and people on here have been saying the car has to have in order to be a decent car. Now it is not enough? If they get the extra power and you still have a full drive train warranty then it is better then buying aftermarket because aftermarket may void the warranty. Also did anyone really think that more power from the manufacturer or from an authorized upgrader was going to be free? The old mantra of $100 for each 1HP falls right in line with what this would cost but you would be able to keep your full warranty. Even if Toyota or Subaru does it you will pay dearly for it. Now, if the upgrade is not included in the factory warranty then this is nothing more than the same expensive aftermarket crap that is being bolted on to the twins now but at an even higher price. __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense! Last edited by Rampage; 05-30-2014 at 08:14 PM.

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