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06-25-2019, 09:07 PM | #57 |
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I have no problem with the Subaru collaboration, it was more of a true collab than the Supra. My car has been very reliable and plenty fast/fun. Quote:
I would think the x2 power levels and 600 lbs compared to an 86 would play a bigger factor in what I notice, not to mention taking in all the controls, gauges, dash, seats, etc. Quote:
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If you mean another generation from now, maybe 25 more years? I could see how that might be much more different.
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I'm now forming an expectation for the Supra. I'm not going to make a decision based on one factor like a 1" fib about the center of gravity. But it will definitely become another attribute that will combine with 1000 other attributes to form my pre-test drive expectation of the car. |
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A '94 would have cost you about $47K to get out the door. To break even, you'd have to bring $81K PLUS all the cost of holding onto it all those years, insurance, taxes, storage, maintenance, etc. If you started with a '96 it bumps up to $90K plus the carrying costs. Just to break even. Two cars sold well above the market value during auction frenzy are outliers. The overwhelming majority are big losers. |
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Meanwhile you can pick up a nice looking Mark III for a song with many prices being well below the cost of a decent used FRS.
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I didn't mention turbos. There are two N/A Supras listed near me right now for $28K each. There's a '94 turbo with a manual transmission listed for $51K and a '97 turbo auto for $50K. $50K and $30K seem to be the magic numbers, meaning both of them would still be losers as investment vehicles.
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Hey, where did that post go?
In any case, here's the link he posted: https://bringatrailer.com/toyota/supra/ What that scatterplot shows us is that the overwhelming majority of the sales are below $60K and are still losers as investments. There seven above $60K that are also below the original price adjusted for inflation, so those also are losers. There are two that are outliers. Both of them were sold during an auction frenzy, and one of them was bought by a dealership as a marketing gimmick. So that just proves my point. It's a loser. The new Supra will also be a loser, so there's no point in buying one to store away as an "investment." Buy it to drive it. |
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It was a good car in it's day but would not have near the following it does now without the (fictional) exposure it received. The same applies to the 2JZ engine that so many think is the ultimate in technology even though it is an inefficient, 30 year old design. OK fanboi's flame away and rationalize why I am wrong!
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