Phantom FTS Electric Supercharger Owners Thread

[Teseo]

In resume, the new version give you the chance to get progresive boost via analog switch, like conventional supercharger?

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Teseo

In resume, the new version give you the chance to get progresive boost via analog switch, like conventional supercharger?

There are two activations: one linesr and one logarithmic.


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[vfrqqq]

So I opened my hood this evening to find that the three power cables connecting the compressor motor to the controller were completely twisted up. Upon further inspection I found that the DC motor and the plate to which it is attached are able to move with respect for the compressor housing. The large retaining ring is still in place; however it appears to be able to move independent of the plate too. I can turn the DC motor fairly easily with my hand in both directions.

EDIT: I have removed the compressor and reverted back to stock until I can get this sorted out.

This is a video of me rotating the motor and plate. You can also see the retaining ring move.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by vfrqqq

So I opened my hood this evening to find that the three power cables con sting the compressor motor to the controller were completely twisted up. Upon further inspection I found that the DC motor and the plate to which it is attached are able to move with respect for the compressor housing. The large retaining ring is still in place; however it sometimes moves with the motor plate and sometimes not. I can turn the DC motor fairly easily with my hand in both directions. Am I missing something or is it normal for the motor and its plate to be able to move?

Will post pics and a video soon.

I don't know how it is put together but the motor and plate shouldn't move. That plate should be keyed or splined into the compressor housing so that it can't spin, or friction/press fit at the least. Please keep us informed, this may be the first mechanical failure for this system.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by vfrqqq

So I opened my hood this evening to find that the three power cables connecting the compressor motor to the controller were completely twisted up. Upon further inspection I found that the DC motor and the plate to which it is attached are able to move with respect for the compressor housing. The large retaining ring is still in place; however it appears to be able to move independent of the plate too. I can turn the DC motor fairly easily with my hand in both directions.



EDIT: I have removed the compressor and reverted back to stock until I can get this sorted out.



This is a video of me rotating the motor and plate. You can also see the retaining ring move.

Contact Rob. That's your best bet. I haven't encountered this with anyone I have helped.


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[zc06_kisstherain]

dammm

[vfrqqq]

I contacted Rob and, outside of shipping the compressor back to him to have him install a thicker snap ring, he recommended removing the snap ring, separating the motor from the compressor housing, and applying some red RVT silicone sealant to fix the motor plate to the compressor housing mating surfaces. Personally, I have the tools and comfort level to disassemble the compressor unit myself and Rob was very helpful in describing how I should apply the liquid gasket. I'll be doing the fix this weekend and will post pics to show what I did, for anyone that is interested. It seems like this fix should take care of the problem and it seems like Rob has also done this with other units, but I will continue to monitor the compressor and motor to verify it is still holding firm.

Unfortunately, I don't know how long I was using the system since this happened as I just happened to be interested in looking under the hood for something else; however, I am fairly certain that it happened sometime after my last oil change, which was about three weeks ago, as I didn't notice anything untoward when I looked under the hood then. My main concern, which I expect is shared by others, is that, aside from directly observing the twisted cables, there was no indication of a problem and it makes me wonder how much longer I might have used the system and continued to strain the power cables before they eventually gave way. Since I'm not familiar with the variations in between different versions of compressors, I defer to Rob (and others) regarding whether others need to preemptively address this issue.

[vfrqqq]

These are the steps I took to disassemble my compressor unit and apply some liquid silicone sealant to keep the motor plate from twisting with respect to the compressor housing. I don’t know how other compressor units were assembled, but my compressor had the motor plate, to which the motor and compressor wheel are mounted, held in place by the friction of a black snap ring.

I used a bicycle spanner to remove the snap ring, which ended up doing the trick, but I needed vice-grip plyers to sufficiently compress the snap ring.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

The motor and compressor housing move freely with the snap ring removed and are easily separated; however, it is a tight fit so I proceeded slowly to keep the compressor wheel from hitting the inside of the compressor housing.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

With the motor separated, you can see the mating surface of the motor plate and compressor housing where the sealant will be applied.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

I cleaned the motor plate and compressor housing mating surfaces with rubbing alcohol (70% isopropyl alcohol solution). While I was at it, I also cleaned up the inside of the compressor housing as it had an oil film. Something I though was interesting was the fact that the interior of the compressor housing appears to have little pits all over the place (see previous pic). Assuming my air filter is doing its job, I’m not exactly sure what is causing this. Perhaps others can report whether they observe this too. With the mating surfaces clean, I applied a ~1/16” bead of JB Weld red RTV silicone sealant to the compressor housing mating surface. The sealant was a little difficult to apply evenly along the surface so I ended up wiping off the excess with my finger taking care not to get any on the interior of the compressor housing. Doing resulted in a fair amount of excess sealant getting pushed into the groove where the snap ring seats; however, I ended up cleaned out that groove after reinstalling the motor plate. With the sealant evenly applied to the compressor housing mating surface, I carefully reinstalled the motor plate and gently pressed it into the compressor housing with a slight twisting motion to spread out the sealant. After the motor plate was installed I let the sealant cure for a few hours and found that it was already held firmly in place. The following picture shows the end result.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1480188921

I reinstalled the snap ring and let the unit cure for 24 hours before reinstalling in the car.

[stevo585]

Has anyone played around with higher AH batteries like 30AH? I want to be able to get full sessions in on track. I guess an AUX charger would help too .

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by stevo585

Has anyone played around with higher AH batteries like 30AH? I want to be able to get full sessions in on track. I guess an AUX charger would help too .

I think aux charger would be best.


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[Flow]

Does anyone have an updated link to the OF tune for the Phantom ESC? It seems its been moved on the website, and all the links I can find are dead.

Tks.

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Flow

Does anyone have an updated link to the OF tune for the Phantom ESC? It seems its been moved on the website, and all the links I can find are dead.



Tks.

Email Shiv directly.


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[Flow]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Email Shiv directly.


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Did. No answer yet, though admittedly just a day has passed.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Flow

Did. No answer yet, though admittedly just a day has passed.

Could be weeks to months before you get a response...