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Old 12-04-2013, 11:28 PM   #15
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What is FA? The wrx will have a FB unless you link a source I can read?
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http://theautopanel.blogspot.com/201...-revealed.html

Same engine in the forester xt.
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:36 PM   #16
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What forester uses an FA? JDM foresters have had the FB since '11.

Do you have an actual source and not just blogs?
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What forester uses an FA? JDM foresters have had the FB since '11.
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Do you have an actual source and not just blogs?
Nope the 2013 forester has an FA20DIT you can find this everywhere.
http://www.carnews.com/article.php?id=31974
Ill find better sources.
Ill keep looking.

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Nope the 2013 forester has an FA20DIT you can find this everywhere.
Ill find better sources.
Ill keep looking.
I see, think we'll have that in the wrx?

Why did you ask if it would fit?
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I see, think we'll have that in the wrx?

Why did you ask if it would fit?
I hate the looks of the wrx but i love the power/torque delivery and i love the
Handling and looks of the frs but i really hate the slow engine.
I want to combine them to make the perfect car.

I think it might be easier to convert the frs engine into a wrx engine with factory parts.
We'll have to see.
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I hate the looks of the wrx but i love the power/torque delivery and i love the
Handling and looks of the frs but i really hate the slow engine.
I want to combine them to make the perfect car.

I think it might be easier to convert the frs engine into a wrx engine with factory parts.
We'll have to see.
K, you got 2 options. Cheap & somewhat reliable way or freaking expensive & reliable way.
Cheap way, go w AVO turbo kit w after market piston & rods to drop the CR
FREAKING expensive way, swap some internal parts of the FA20DIT from JDM Leggy & full custom ECU. They already making over 500hp out of this setup (in japan).
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Just cause it's designed from factory with boost doesn't mean it'll last forever. A good friend of mine just had a failure in cylinder 3&4 on his 2013 WRX with 30,000km. Not a single power mod installed on it either. Not even a tune.
Ringland failure? If yes, that's nothing new.
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I know i know its just the wrx engine is designed for a turbo so it will last for ever.
All these boosted high compression stock engines in the frs will last 2-3 years and will cause a lot of problems. Its just not built for boost.
1. Everyone of my friends who has a subaru, wrecks the engine in 2-3 years

2. Toyota does not design engines that only last 2-3 years (and running 7-8 psi is not going to blow these things up quickly)
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K, you got 2 options. Cheap & somewhat reliable way or freaking expensive & reliable way.
Cheap way, go w AVO turbo kit w after market piston & rods to drop the CR
FREAKING expensive way, swap some internal parts of the FA20DIT from JDM Leggy & full custom ECU. They already making over 500hp out of this setup (in japan).
I agree with you. the beauty of the FA20DIT is the twin scroll setup which gives you that nice low end torque curve. but that's exactly what I was thinking.
doing a wrx engine knock off. get the factory pistons, rods and cams and drop the AVO turbo in there. My goal is low end torque that kicks in asap.
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1. Everyone of my friends who has a subaru, wrecks the engine in 2-3 years

2. Toyota does not design engines that only last 2-3 years (and running 7-8 psi is not going to blow these things up quickly)
toyota DIDN'T design this engine.
the only thing that's toyota is the DI system which sucks.
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setting aside the top mount intercooler, fit will come down to clearance for the rear mounted turbo and the back firewall.

Given what I have seen in the engine bay, I don't think it will work. Given the cost if it did fit, your better off simply buying a well sorted turbo or supercharger kit. Gets you to the same place for less money.
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K, you got 2 options. Cheap & somewhat reliable way or freaking expensive & reliable way.
Cheap way, go w AVO turbo kit w after market piston & rods to drop the CR
FREAKING expensive way, swap some internal parts of the FA20DIT from JDM Leggy & full custom ECU. They already making over 500hp out of this setup (in japan).
Couldn't you get the same reliability as well as HP potential from aftermarket internals as well? I wish toyota would come out with more TRD parts. TRD pistons and such would be a pretty cool revival of the brand.
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toyota DIDN'T design this engine.
the only thing that's toyota is the DI system which sucks.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6919
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1. Everyone of my friends who has a subaru, wrecks the engine in 2-3 years

2. Toyota does not design engines that only last 2-3 years (and running 7-8 psi is not going to blow these things up quickly)

Are you trying to say that the engine in are cars is a Toyota because they slapped D4-S on it? Hate to break it to you but these are Subaru cars. Toyota just dreamed it up, Subaru executed the engineering and of course the manufacturing IMHO.


As far as the FA20DIT, no one can tell me that Subaru isn't making a lot more money selling the BRZ than the WRX. I mean the WRX has the better motor, AWD, and 500 lbs more steel.


I think if Toyota/Subaru would get their heads out of their A$$ or had a little competition they could make the FRZ standard with the different tuned FA20DIT for no price increase. Hopefully healthy competition from Nissan will force them into it.
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