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[FS] Scion tC Turbo Widebody Rosso Corsa Motec
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PHONE NUMBER: (N9ne se7en thr3e) s6x se7en zer0 - se7en fo4r t2o n9ne (Text me, please.) EMAIL: marque.n.reprisal A@T gEEmail D.O.T. c-o)m LOCATION: Newton, NJ PRICE: $19,999 443 WHP, 474 FT*LBS 36k miles, 13k on motor. ABOUT THE CAR I find that anytime I'm speaking to someone about this car, or even any car, one of the first questions that comes up is always "how much horsepower does it make?" After the initial mental face palm, I reluctantly answer. Granted, 443 whp is an absurd amount given stock power was about one third, and most people are rightly amazed by the answer. However, this says little to nothing about the full experience that comes with driving this car. I'd argue its whp is actually its weakest point - so that's saying a lot. Everything about this car is so finely tuned and so spot on it's just unreal. From a raw performance standpoint, this car is a behemoth. Getting on the throttle (it's drive-by-wire, but honestly feels like drive-by-cable: the Motec does an outstanding job) will often drop you between "dear god I'm going stupidly fast" and "dear god I'm going sideways." The 474 ft-lbs of torque generated by the perfectly sized ball-bearing turbo hits so fiendishly quick and with such little lag that you'll often find yourself literally clenching your butt-cheeks. This is especially true when dropping from 4th to 3rd and flooring it - you WILL be thrown back into your seat, perhaps even through your seat. Couple this with the perfect harmony of the exhaust and jet-like turbo spooling noise and you'll be crying tears of joy knowing your life may have just climaxed. Needless to say, handling on this car is borderline super-car territory. What would you expect from a car with tires wider than Alabama, a suspension stiffer than moonshine, and quite possibly ALL the bracing? The coilovers are undeniably high quality though - they can both provide a stiff suspension while maintaining an excellent level of ride comfort. The difference, however, is that when you take turns or hit bumps, you won't feel like you're on a god damn Pogo stick like you would in most cars. In addition, body roll is non-existent - you'll be flatter than the planet Earth (screw you Christopher Columbus, you're wrong). The sound system can best be described as a mental patient in a strait-jacket. It can show restraint, but if you'd like, it can also be insane. Are the subs overkill? Probably, but trunk-space is overrated. I actually felt the need to make a dub step mix just to see how many wub wubs this car could deliver into my body before I was vaporized. Something different happened though. I went into this experience hating dubstep, but came out loving it. Clearly, THE SOUND SYSTEM IS SO GOOD IT TURNED TERRIBLE MUSIC INTO GREAT MUSIC. On a more serious note, I'm a bit of an audiophile, and there's no denying someone with a good ear dialed in the components properly. This car can and should be daily driven. Take it to get groceries, drive to the track, do work, then get angry that you forgot about the cold stuff and now it's ruined. Dailying this car is completely viable. The transmission is extremely smooth, and the clutch is only a little heavier than your typical clutch (it's a stage four clutch too: I genuinely wonder what kind of wizards Clutchmasters has working for them). Here's one mention you'll never see in an aftermarket car ad: fuel economy. I've measured this multiple times and got 22-24 mpg mixed. That's seriously impressive, and mildly hilarious, given a stock tC is expected to get 29 at best. Also, turbo. Anyone can throw time and money at a project car, but there's a radical difference between what a shade tree mechanic using no name auto store parts can produce vs. a handful of professional, reputable shops with high quality brand name parts. This car is a shining example of the latter. There were NO corners cut, and this shows. The only major maintenance I incurred was the clutch replacement, and even that was done professionally. Did I mention turbo? This is a complete project with over $60k in parts and even more in labor. You're not buying someone else's nightmare project car that got in over their head, you're buying a professionally built car that has been broken in, stood the test of time and been properly taken care of*. If, like me, you always need to be improving something - you'll be happy to hear there's still meat on the bone. The engine was built to the same spec as Chris Rado's time attack tC, which is run at a whopping 40 psi of boost. 22 psi was the stopping point because the exhaust became too restrictive to make more power - an equal length tubular manifold was required. Please, ask me any questions you may have. There's so much to say about this car, but I'm clearly past the point of rambling. THE STORY I'm the second owner of this car and have owned it for about 4 years. I put 6k miles on it and tracked it twice during the first two years of ownership, but the car has, unfortunately, been sitting since (but is brought to temp and driven briefly every 2 months). My commute to work became too short, and even my weekend driving couldn't justify having insurance on two cars. The first owner was an older gentleman who poured his heart and soul (and wallet) into this car. I had actually known him for a few years prior to buying; He was my go to supplier for aftermarket parts for my other car. I've always known him as a pleasant and honest guy, and of course incredibly passionate and knowledgeable about car modification. His transparency during the deal made our transaction smoother than I could have ever hoped for. One thing was immensely clear when I bought this car from the previous owner: he really wanted to make sure the car was going to a good home. After my experience with it, I genuinely feel the same way. This car is far removed from your typical tuner car - it's a borderline super-car and should be treated as such (except you can actually drive it!). My goal is to make this sale an exact reflection of what I experienced. I don't want the buyer to feel any remorse. Instead, I want you to be excited about your purchase, and all the ideas you have on how to make the car even better. Reason for selling: I've had a lot of fun with this car, but I've reached a point in life where I now have the means to build my own project car like this from scratch. Read: I don't need to sell this car, I want to sell this car. Doing a serious build like this has been a bit of a dream of mine since I converted my first car from NA to turbo. However, don't misinterpret my intentions. If I can't find an excited buyer willing to pay a reasonable amount, I can keep my dream on hold a little longer. I'm still throwing around the idea of taking this car further. PROBLEMS -Cannot pass emissions -A couple of hairline cracks in the fiberglass. You could get these filled - I didn't bother because they are minor and weren't getting any worse. -Torque Steer: Not as bad as you'd expect on a ~500 lb-pound torque fwd car. For street driving, I ran 16 psi which almost completely eliminated it while still providing a ridiculous level of acceleration. If you need to reduce torque steer further, it could be drastically reduced by tuning the Motec's built in wheel slip function (you'll have to pay Motec $180 to unlock the feature first). MAINTENANCE -All fluids have been flushed within the last year -Tires only have 2k miles on them -Clutch only has 3k miles on it -Transmission rebuilt, new LSD, new slave cylinder during clutch replacement -Water pump replaced less than 1k miles ago -No leaks SHOPS -Tuning: Twins Turbo (Signal Hill, CA) (Shane Tecklenburg) -Mechanicals: FasterScions.com (Canoga Park, CA) -Audio: Safe 'n Sound (Canoga Park, CA) -Interior: Chatsworth Auto Upholstery (Chatsworth, CA) -Body/Paint: Donlyson Auto Concepts (Eagle Rock, CA) MODS PERFORMANCE Turbonetics T3/T4 E-50 turbo Bosch 750cc injectors Raptor blow off valve Turbonetics Evolution 35mm external wastegate Spearco W.A.V.E. intercooler Black chrome intercooler piping Stainless mandrel-bent downpipe MoTeC M400 ECU management (three maps on a switch) Custom wiring harness Aeromotove A1000 fuel pump Custom fuel rail fuel pressure regulator w/gauge Energy Suspension engine mounts Agency-Power crank pulley TWM stage 2 short shifter delrin shift knob with extension Golden Eagle Vacuum block Draxas stainless S pipe Custom 2.5" mandrel-bent exhaust / Magnaflow muffler/tip World Racing TBC-1 electronic boost controller (selectable boost!) Autometer digital tach with shift light Autometer digital air/fuel gauge (also wired into the M400 for logging) Autometer C2 water temp gauge Autometer C2 oil pressure gauge Autometer C2 voltmeter oil crank breather kit (w/ catch can) oil cooler custom C&R aluminum radiator INTERNALS CP turbo pistons 8.5:1 (balanced) Carrillo forged rods (balanced) custom ported & polished head custom ground and coated cams +1.5 mm titanium valves high pressure valve springs titanium valve retainers ARP head bolts SUSPENSION H & R coilovers TRD front strut bar Hotchkis front & rear sway bars FIKSE custom made 3 pc. 18 x 10 forged rims Project Kicks neo-chro lug nuts 275/35/18 Potenza Pole Position tire Wilwood big brakes (slotted & drilled rotors) front AND rear stainless brake lines TRANSMISSION Quaife limited slip differential Clutchmasters Stage 4, six puck (sprung) clutch Clutchmasters lightweight flywheel Driveshaft Shop Reinforced axles INTERIOR + SOUND Cobra leather racing seats, upholstered red and black, with SCION logo Rear seats upholstered to match AutoPower roll bar, custom powdercoated Kenwood DDX 6019 7" video Kenwood KNA-G510 nav iPod Combatability add-on back-up cam JBL amps: 1 x 1100w, 4 x75w EQ-S equalizer JBL Pro & GTO speakers custom sub enclosure: dual 10" subs Dynamat XM Radio XM Nav Traffic Bluetooth hands-free phone Oznium interior LED lighting LED Footwell lighting front and rear LED cupholders Potentiometer for fully controllable gauge lighting "Ferrari" conversion on stock gauge cluster custom painted center console CF armrest CF door panels CF A and B pillars CF headliner (one piece) CF Gauge pods leather upholstered C pillars Works Bell hub and quick release Sparco Flash 5 steering wheel (retains horn) Python security system with tilt sensor, radar sensor, backup battery Scion security system (NO CONFLICTS with Python - mainly for glass break sensor) ACCESSORIES AND EXTERIOR Custom widebody Ferrari Rosa Corsa paint Integrated Kaminari spoiler Custom rear diffuser Clear Corners custom headlights Clear Corners custom taillights Clear Corners custom 3rd brake light shaved antenna window tint Leather shift boot red Agency-Power silicone hoses powder coated valve cover Hella Supertone horns CF OEM hood Custom black grills Air Conditioning! MANY MORE PICTURES: http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/ma...C%20For%20Sale Last edited by Apophenic; 11-18-2015 at 04:52 PM. |
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10-05-2015, 08:35 PM | #2 |
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It might be beneficial to list what's actually done to the car. Even so I think $25k is more than outrageous. Fully built brand new 86's are going for that.
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Anyways, OP updated with a lot more information. |
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10-06-2015, 09:12 AM | #4 |
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ah nice
ive seen this car from time to time! good luck with the sale! |
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the rear reminds me a lot of a civic
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You don't happen to go to SCCC, do you? I see a nice white FRS around there all the time (or are you going to tell me that, despite your name, you actually have a black BRZ or something? ) |
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i used to have a white SRT4, used to hang out in Byram all the time, would see you drive bye from time to time |
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10-19-2015, 01:39 PM | #8 |
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Price drop!
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Still for sale!
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Bump.
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Just to ask, is that Garm's old car?
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Garm spent money like it was raining chains. Lol... that's his other company. I knew I recognized that car from me seeing it bulit on yarisworld. Small internet world, good to meet you! Garm had a budget that was endless. Seriously.. |
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Little fun fact...I picked that car up when it was finished to bring back to the then MI shop. Lost a center cap at an intersection bump. We went back and looked all over the side of the street and I found the cap. Rather scuffed up, so I think Garm had another delivered.
I'm sure you two recognize my username, and know which Yaris I had. lol. |
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