Any active 2JZ swap build threads?

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by wparsons

IMO, the only reason to do a 2JZ swap is so you can say "OMG I HAVE A 2JZ". They're HEAVY iron block engines, and for WAY less than the swap will cost you could have a built FA20 making just as much power. Unless you're aiming for 1000hp + there's no need to go with a different engine.

I don't know about all of that. As a guy with a 1JZGTE Soarer and an FR-S ... the 1JZ/2JZ is a much more stout engine with a massive knowledge-base. It's already proven to be much more reliable and is far easier to service many parts on.

Associated driveline parts with a 2JZ are also going to be more available and are reasonably bullet proof.

The FA20 has been such a let down for me. The factory drivetrain isn't really made for a lot of power. The engine itself is plagued with growing cases of DI failures. It's DI and high-compression. A lot of people really don't like playing around with unforgiving setups like this.

The FA20 .. I will call a successor to the NA EJ25 .. but it's not in the same league as a JZ engine. I don't think a 1JZ/2JZ is a great swap for this car in particular because of the cost and the weight of the ol iron block bitch but ... I don't think the FA20 has a bright future either.

In my opinion - the aftermarket is over-inflating the worth of the FA20 engine due to the surge in the market that this platform (FT86) has produced.

[TRD_07]

Anyone more knowledgeable with an LS2 swap happen to know if the cog is also disturbed more than the 2j?

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by empower-auto

I don't know about all of that. As a guy with a 1JZGTE Soarer and an FR-S ... the 1JZ/2JZ is a much more stout engine with a massive knowledge-base. It's already proven to be much more reliable and is far easier to service many parts on.

Associated driveline parts with a 2JZ are also going to be more available and are reasonably bullet proof.

The FA20 has been such a let down for me. The factory drivetrain isn't really made for a lot of power. The engine itself is plagued with growing cases of DI failures. It's DI and high-compression. A lot of people really don't like playing around with unforgiving setups like this.

The FA20 .. I will call a successor to the NA EJ25 .. but it's not in the same league as a JZ engine. I don't think a 1JZ/2JZ is a great swap for this car in particular because of the cost and the weight of the ol iron block bitch but ... I don't think the FA20 has a bright future either.

In my opinion - the aftermarket is over-inflating the worth of the FA20 engine due to the surge in the market that this platform (FT86) has produced.

Not too heavy, if the total weight of the car is 2806, with a 2j thats pushing 1000 whp /800tq



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[hmong337]

I'm not so much for the fa20 either. But a 2j would totally destroy any sort of handling advantage this car offers. As much of a Toyota fan boy I am, I would rather go LSx before 2j with the 86.

But a more reasonable swap that I would enjoy would be a F20/22c swap. Heck I've even been thinking about dropping a Hyundai Genesis 2.0t motor into the car if the FA20 doesn't hold. That motor is pretty stout and would be a good alternative I believe.

$0.02

[JordanWho]

Some very good points above.

I'm personally wanting to build a track only drift 86 with a genuine 400HP ATW. Why go 2JZ?
Because I want something pretty much un breakable. I want something I can drive really hard and not have to worry about.

Yes, you can boost an FA and get it making 300/400HP pretty easy but the difference is, squeezing say 400HP out of an FA would mean it would have to be rebuilt and even so, you're realistically going to be running it at probably (rough guess) 80 odd % of it's maximum capacity. Whereas getting 400/450HP out of a 2JZ is absolute child's play. It would make that on stock internals and probably be able to sit on limiter for the rest of eternity and not ever skip a beat. Even boosting it to say 500HP with a decent size single turbo it's probably only running at 50% if that. That's why it's a good option because STRONG.

I don't really need to worry able weight and handling as it's drift only and we all know it's been done and it works great.

I guess for me I just want to see what is involved in the swap in detail. I have been quoted 50k for the whole project. Yes, I know that seems like way too much but this is from one of the best workshops in my state and they’ve come up with that price based on the fact they simply don’t know exactly whats involved. They’ve been very transparent in this whole situation and said that it could very well come in cheaper but they’d rather give me a 'worse case scenario' quote rather than saying, yep 25k and then have to start asking me for more money. Also they're work is top notch and i've always believed that you get what you pay for. I simply wouldn't trust anyone else with this project.

Plus don’t forget that I live in Australia so we pay WAY MORE more for this shit than you lucky ass yanks

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

A 2jz + v160 about 8grand in clean and immaculate condition as the 160s hate to be rebuilt
Modifying the tranny mounts
A proper fuel system 3k
A standalone can be 2k , custom harness , and incorporating the supras ecu and the 86s (total of 3) can be costly
Custom radiator
Custom intercooler
Custom driveshaft from dds 1.xk
Extensive modification to the steering rack
Single turbo swap (done properly and maybe a custom manifold )

Labour

^^^ This is spot on and pretty much exactly matches my quote.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

@JordanWho

Lol my shop said something similar. " we dont know what we are going into "

I really did my homework with this subject.


You will be making 500 VERY easily, if you are willing to take the plunge do it, its most likley rewarding, and maybe i can help you a bit too


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[JordanWho]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

@JordanWho

Lol my shop said something similar. " we dont know what we are going into "

I really did my homework with this subject.


You will be making 500 VERY easily, if you are willing to take the plunge do it, its most likley rewarding, and maybe i can help you a bit too


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Yep.

This is why I got so excited about the link in the OP because it was so detailed and was trying to answer all the questions EVERYONE has.

I hope someone does else does the swap and can document it.

[JordanWho]

Ps.

NOT INTERESTED IN LS.

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by JordanWho

Ps.

NOT INTERESTED IN LS.

2jz or gtfo ?


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[JordanWho]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

2jz or gtfo ?


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Bahahaha pretty much.


But I might have to settle for FA just with less power though

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by JordanWho

Bahahaha pretty much.


But I might have to settle for FA just with less power though

Turbo + low boost setting for around town. A separate map for race gas ( if ethanol is not available)


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[diss7]

If it's for track only, at 400hp, I would use the fa20 definitely. Track is all about braking and corner speed, power is a bonus. FYI 400hp from a built fa20 would be uber realiable.

Take it from someone with a 400hp track car.

I'd track your current car
Then turbo and go 300whp
If you've mastered that, then build and go 400.

A track gt86 with 300whp from a fa20 will pants one with a 2jz and 400whp, every time.

[Kelbyat07]

There is a video on Youtube of an FRS with a 2jz swap and it sounds godly. I think the owner has a shop or something and it cost about 5-15k.

[JordanWho]

Originally Posted by diss7

If it's for track only, at 400hp, I would use the fa20 definitely. Track is all about braking and corner speed, power is a bonus. FYI 400hp from a built fa20 would be uber realiable.

Take it from someone with a 400hp track car.

I'd track your current car
Then turbo and go 300whp
If you've mastered that, then build and go 400.

A track gt86 with 300whp from a fa20 will pants one with a 2jz and 400whp, every time.

I'm wanting to set it up for drift. When I said track only I mean, non street legal. I have a rolling shell coming over from Japan so not ever able to be street legal.

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

There is a video on Youtube of an FRS with a 2jz swap and it sounds godly. I think the owner has a shop or something and it cost about 5-15k.

Link?