Hate the feel of the clutch - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

FRSGeek · 07-09-2013, 08:57 PM

What can I do? I is damn near binary, on/off and way to the floor for engagement.

Every manual (long time ago I admit) the clutch start slipping way earlier.

What I want is contact more in-line with my gas peddle. As I add throttle, I'm finalizing release of the clutch. Get me?

Is this adjustable? Car will go in on Friday, I can have them do that while its there.

Ron

zuldajin · 07-09-2013, 09:02 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040

brzadmir · 07-09-2013, 09:05 PM

My best advice to you is, being that I myself first hated the clutch and could not stand it. 1,000 miles later I couldn't be any happier with it, driven way heavier clutches, more engaged clutches(feel), all i can say is that I am more than happy with this clutch. What you put into it is what you get, it was trial and error learning the clutch and I can say now i love it the way it is, upshifts, downshifts, hill starts, etc. Couldn't be any happier! My piece of advice is just give yourself more time, keep practicing over and over, don't deprive yourself if your still messing up because once you get it you'll love it!

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Originally Posted by FRSGeek

What can I do? I is damn near binary, on/off and way to the floor for engagement.

Every manual (long time ago I admit) the clutch start slipping way earlier.

What I want is contact more in-line with my gas peddle. As I add throttle, I'm finalizing release of the clutch. Get me?

Is this adjustable? Car will go in on Friday, I can have them do that while its there.

Ron

FRSGeek · 07-09-2013, 09:15 PM

Thanks for the advice, will do. Just never had a MT with it so close to the firewall.

I am Borg, I will adapt!

Yes, my Geek colors are showing..

Mild2Wild · 07-09-2013, 11:17 PM

Should drive an RSX type S. they have a surprisingly short pedal travel. Especially compared to an 8th gen Si.

PoWn3d_0704 · 07-09-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zuldajin

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040

I did this. It will help immensely, and in my opinion, is how it should have come from the factory. This might be odd advice, but go drive the car totally barefoot for a few miles. You'll get used to the feel super fast.

cmspooner · 07-09-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zuldajin

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8040

This is definitely worth doing. I had a lot of trouble and this adjustment is like magic.

GTB/ZR-1 · 07-10-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSGeek

I am Borg, I will adapt!

Clutch resistance is futile... lol

bcj · 07-10-2013, 12:23 AM

Different feel and ergonomics. Comes with repetition and muscle memory.
I've adjusted myself to it. If I revise the pedal, I'll have to re-learn it all over.
The pressure required is definitely in my comfort zone. I've had worse 8)

LeeMaster · 07-10-2013, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brzadmir

My best advice to you is, being that I myself first hated the clutch and could not stand it. 1,000 miles later I couldn't be any happier with it, driven way heavier clutches, more engaged clutches(feel), all i can say is that I am more than happy with this clutch. What you put into it is what you get, it was trial and error learning the clutch and I can say now i love it the way it is, upshifts, downshifts, hill starts, etc. Couldn't be any happier! My piece of advice is just give yourself more time, keep practicing over and over, don't deprive yourself if your still messing up because once you get it you'll love it!

^^ THIS!

My first 3 months was horrid, some days I would jerk my car a little because I missed my RPM only by 100, and some other days it would be as smooth as butter. Eventually I got it down and now I can downshift and upshift it just by the sound of the engine and without even looking at the gauge!

Gen · 07-10-2013, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSGeek

What can I do? I is damn near binary, on/off and way to the floor for engagement.

Every manual (long time ago I admit) the clutch start slipping way earlier.

What I want is contact more in-line with my gas peddle. As I add throttle, I'm finalizing release of the clutch. Get me?

Is this adjustable? Car will go in on Friday, I can have them do that while its there.

Ron

Quite honestly I've never heard anyone say it has a low engagement point. The damn thing is engaged after like 3/4" of travel from its highest point.

radroach · 07-10-2013, 12:30 AM

I had a tuner shop adjust mine to set at height in line with the gas pedal and also to engage sooner.

If you want a stiffer clutch feel, you could try a lightweight flywheel. I test drove another fr-s with a perrin flywheel and it had a stiffer and abrupt engagement feel.

LeeMaster · 07-10-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by radroach

I had a tuner shop adjust mine to set at height in line with the gas pedal and also to engage sooner.

If you want a stiffer clutch feel, you could try a lightweight flywheel. I test drove another fr-s with a perrin flywheel and it had a stiffer and abrupt engagement feel.

Are you sure he didnt use a Stage 1 or 2 clutch?

FRSGeek · 07-10-2013, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen

Quite honestly I've never heard anyone say it has a low engagement point. The damn thing is engaged after like 3/4" of travel from its highest point.

Low engagement being to the floor/firewall, not at the point of initial press.

Its so light and its way down in the bottom of travel. I am just used to having the activity of both feet more inline with each other.

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FRSGeek Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: UltraMarine 6 Spd MT Location: Eastside Posts: 139 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hate the feel of the clutch What can I do? I is damn near binary, on/off and way to the floor for engagement. Every manual (long time ago I admit) the clutch start slipping way earlier. What I want is contact more in-line with my gas peddle. As I add throttle, I'm finalizing release of the clutch. Get me? Is this adjustable? Car will go in on Friday, I can have them do that while its there. Ron

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FRSGeek Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: UltraMarine 6 Spd MT Location: Eastside Posts: 139 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the advice, will do. Just never had a MT with it so close to the firewall. I am Borg, I will adapt! Yes, my Geek colors are showing..

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