How's the shifting of MT compared to other cars - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Lowellrenzo · 06-06-2012, 12:08 AM

I'm new to driving MT so please gimme some ideas about your experience on driving manual. I got a MT frs and sometime the shifting is not smooth but sometime it is.

eriktherod · 06-06-2012, 12:13 AM

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

rcm47 · 06-06-2012, 02:11 AM

This is my first MT car also. I find it more easy to drive than the old hondas/ acuras I have tried.

Moto-P · 06-06-2012, 05:11 AM

There was a dedicated staff just for the transmission on this car, and folks from Subaru, Toyota, and Aisin spent many months perfecting the feel of the shift lever.
Personally, from my drives of the PP cars and production cars in MT, the shifter feels solid, but light, precise and accurate, and well stroked at the lever in both motion angles and lever travel.

Of course the ideal position on the floor console is dependent on the driver's size and body dimensions, but overall, I think it is one of the slickest shifting boxes in production cars today.

Symbiont · 06-06-2012, 12:58 PM

I absolutely love it. Much better than the Borg Warner T5 that I had to learn on when I was 16.

pyro530 · 06-06-2012, 01:12 PM

I've been driving a stick since I was 16 (I'm 29 now) and this is by far, once of the best shifting cars I have ever driven. Only thing I would say comes close was driving my friends RSX. My SRT-4 Neon had a similar throw and the placement was better, but it didn't even come close on feeling and ease of shifts.

WolfsFang · 06-06-2012, 01:17 PM

I love the shifter but the clutch is to soft :<

pr086 · 06-06-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eriktherod

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

the 8th gen si's were praised for their shifting (despite the 3rd gear issues). is the throw and feel of it noticably different? (better) ?

dnL · 06-06-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang

I love the shifter but the clutch is to soft :<

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

Billy2224 · 06-06-2012, 01:31 PM

If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???

Hanakuso · 06-06-2012, 01:34 PM

Anyone have any experience coming from an S2000?

kevinnivek8877 · 06-06-2012, 01:56 PM

I agree as well. The clutch on the BRZ is soft as well and the catch point is too high up. I hope there's a way to adjust this without going aftermarket.

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Originally Posted by dnL

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

mankarn86 · 06-06-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy2224

If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???

Which generation bmw? I've driven the 128i, and 328i (e90) and I didn't like either shifter at all. My mazda 3 shifter was actually better than both these cars IMHO.

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Originally Posted by kevinnivek8877

I agree as well. The clutch on the BRZ is soft as well and the catch point is too high up. I hope there's a way to adjust this without going aftermarket.

Catch point is adjustable on most clutches...

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Originally Posted by dnL

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

Soft is actually a good thing esp on a DD. I drove a mazdaspeed3, and the clutch drove me wild after 15 min...my leg was so sore...
If the clutch stiffness bothers you, put in an aftermarket clutch...I don't blame toyo/subie for putting in a soft clutch...

#87 · 06-06-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eriktherod

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

I like the shifter much better than the Si but I am kinda thinking I like the feel of the Si clutch, I feel I was much better able to feel the engagement point. What do you think?

06-06-2012, 12:08 AM	#1
Lowellrenzo Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Civic Si coupe Location: Boston Posts: 45 Thanks: 15 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How's the shifting of MT compared to other cars I'm new to driving MT so please gimme some ideas about your experience on driving manual. I got a MT frs and sometime the shifting is not smooth but sometime it is.

06-06-2012, 01:12 PM	#6
pyro530 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S 6MT Location: Chico, CA Posts: 303 Thanks: 175 Thanked 102 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I've been driving a stick since I was 16 (I'm 29 now) and this is by far, once of the best shifting cars I have ever driven. Only thing I would say comes close was driving my friends RSX. My SRT-4 Neon had a similar throw and the placement was better, but it didn't even come close on feeling and ease of shifts. __________________ Current: FR-S Ultramarine 6MT - Took delivery 05/30/2012 - Now for sale here 1995 M3 Coupe MT - the "Bavarian Bumblebee" Past: 1994 Integra - Sold \| 2005 Dodge SRT-4 - Totaled by Hail \| 1997 Acura 2.2 CL slowmobile - Sold \| 1991 BMW E30 - Sold \| 1991 Acura Integra GS - Wrecked \| 1971 Chevy C-10 shortbed stepside - Sold \| 1973 Camaro Z-28 Clone - Stolen

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