FA20DIT BRZ @ STOHL RACING

[sam69]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Context: engines imported from overseas needs to have identical emissions equipment and meet/exceed CA smog standards, plus need to be same MY or newer.
The Australian engines listed above are 2012, won't work.

Love it or hate it, that's how the laws are here.

-alex

So even if the motor has all the same emissions gear on it so it would comply but it's not the same MY you can't use it

What about other states ?

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by sam69

So even if the motor has all the same emissions gear on it so it would comply but it's not the same MY you can't use it

What about other states ?

No idea about other states, but many follow California rules since it is the most stringent.

Motor has to be same model year or newer. It's mostly because the law is designed to prevent you from, say, putting a truck motor into a car and smogging it as a trust, or putting in an older motor and grandfathering old standards onto a new car.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_emission_standards"]United States emission standards - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/standards/light-duty/index.htm

Some of the above schedules are based on vehicle MY, others are based on mileage. As mentioned already, CA standards are the strictest so if you follow CA smog standards, then you'll be covered in the other 49 states.

-alex

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Different strokes for different folks.
@tahdizzle wants a factory turbo setup without smog issues. @Jaden wants displacement

I want a lightweight NA build.

-alex

I really want cali legal power.

As long as it will pass cursory inspection and smog, I'm fine with whatever.

I had considered doing a ford ecoboost 3.5. twin turbo v6. They're bullet proof and make 365 hp and 420lb ft dead nuts stock..and there's hundreds of thousands of them out there from f150s. The only problem with that is cross platform in cali...

Jaden

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I really want cali legal power.

As long as it will pass cursory inspection and smog, I'm fine with whatever.

I had considered doing a ford ecoboost 3.5. twin turbo v6. They're bullet proof and make 365 hp and 420lb ft dead nuts stock..and there's hundreds of thousands of them out there from f150s. The only problem with that is cross platform in cali...

Jaden

Taurus SHO.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

Taurus SHO.

you're going from FWD to RWD, the exhaust system will give you problems while still getting past the referees...

Jaden

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by Jaden

you're going from FWD to RWD, the exhaust system will give you problems while still getting past the referees...

Jaden

Oh yeah. It's AWD but I forgot it was transverse. :/

Here's hoping for a twin turbo six mustang in the future.

[Speedhead]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tahdizzle
The greatest appeal of the fa20dit to me, is a factory turbo.

Personally, I'd take a factory turbo over any aftermarket turbo set-up for reliability.

No additional tuning, or anything. A fa20dit, operating under normal conditions at factory settings and output is all I could even want in my BRZ.

That´s exactly one of the major factors.
340 hp with an absolutely bullet proof setup w/o the typical hassle of any *shitty* aftermarket parts for the major hardware causing the usual hassle.

With regards to legalty in US/Cali, of course because of our geographic distance it´s not our major target ba today.
Firstoff we´ll handle this topic for our region (Central europe, TUV etc.)

However, we also can imagine to cooperate with partner(s) in the US, with regards to distribution, installation and legal topics as road homologation.

But those topics are still quite far away...

Let´s see what the future brings!

[Basket Case]

looking forward to seeing results.

And to all of you worrying about engine swaps in california, wouldn't it just be simpler to stop electing communists? Problems solved...

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Basket Case

looking forward to seeing results.

And to all of you worrying about engine swaps in california, wouldn't it just be simpler to stop electing communists? Problems solved...

That's like saying "I want cheaper oil, lets frack everywhere!" or "Lets reduce taxes and cut levee maintenance funds!"

Without emissions regulations the greater Los Angeles area would be an uninhabitable wasteland right now.

[Speedhead]

Hi guys,

Long time no update here becasue crazily busy at work...

Meanwhile the car was a t the paintshop, in order to repair a small damage it had when purchased.
With a bit of luck, we´ll have the first test runs by next week!
Fingers crossed

Will keep you informed on here of course!

[nadbrz]

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[Speedhead]

Small update,

Engine is already alive in the car.
Still a lot of finalisation work necessary with regards to the mapping.

Will keep you updated

[Speedhead]

First proper testdrives done in over the last 2 days.

Car is incredibly fast, especially considering that we are still extremely safe with boost, ignition & fuel mixture.
Also there still is the OEM N/A muffler on the car
Expect some 300-310-ish hp and ar 400+ Nm currently

the amount of available torque over the complete range and especially the response is breathtaking....
repeatedly felt the need to doublecheck if it really was the 4th gear and not second which I was in......
It always was 4th.

Now what I´m interested in, is there any section on here whith some serious GPS plots of 100-200 acceleration for trubo´d & supercharged FA20d´s on the forum somewhere?

I´ve done a quick measruement with some slow ass shifting.
Especially considering that this is just the initial safe version, honestly I am pretty impressed, and much more than only optimistic with regards to the future potential.
There´s some seriously nasty fast car in that little BRZ
results can be seen here.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Speedheads-Performance/1521882101399227?sk=about§ion=work

over the next week we will finalise the mapping for the V1 package, meaning full OE performance (300 hp, 400 Nm).

based on this some extensive testing of the car will be carried out.
looking forward to offer the complete package (incl. every single component and a full installation manual) in something about 1-2 months from now.
prices will also be worked out during that period, as per now we only have the "oneoff costs" which I´d better not post

[Andrew025]

Any more pictures?