11-14-2017, 10:09 AM | #827 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,199
Thanks: 2,934
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
The drop in Boxster and Cayman sales is a bit shocking, given that the 2017 models are heavily revised. Who would have thought that tossing the flat 6 in favor of turbo 4s would hurt sales that much?
(Besides me )
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to WolfpackS2k For This Useful Post: | funwheeldrive (11-14-2017), Tcoat (11-14-2017) |
11-14-2017, 10:23 AM | #828 | |
1st86 Driver!
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,798
Thanks: 38,786
Thanked 24,907 Times in 11,362 Posts
Mentioned: 181 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Me buying new or used doesn't help the used market one way or the other very much since I usually keep a car until they don't make parts for it any longer. No one wants one of my used cars. I treat them well, but when I get rid of one, its typically beyond reasonable repair.
__________________
Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk". |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Dadhawk For This Useful Post: | Tcoat (11-14-2017) |
11-14-2017, 10:31 AM | #829 | ||
Guilt free parts vulture!
Join Date: Jul 2016
Drives: 2013 FR-S - Asphalt 6MT
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,666
Thanks: 496
Thanked 1,755 Times in 928 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Quote:
|
||
11-14-2017, 10:34 AM | #830 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Those were just the numbers for the first half of the year. It will be interesting to see what happens to the upper tier car sales as the interest rates keep climbing. They could tank or shoot up as people try to buy before the rates get too high.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
11-14-2017, 10:36 AM | #831 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
11-14-2017, 10:40 AM | #832 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post: | Dadhawk (11-14-2017) |
11-14-2017, 10:45 AM | #833 | |
Guilt free parts vulture!
Join Date: Jul 2016
Drives: 2013 FR-S - Asphalt 6MT
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,666
Thanks: 496
Thanked 1,755 Times in 928 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Actually, I was implying that those cars may have had an even greater drop in sales; e.g. they are being inflated by the fleet sales.
__________________
Quote:
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to nextcar For This Useful Post: | Tcoat (11-14-2017) |
11-14-2017, 10:50 AM | #834 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Ahhhh yes it works that way as well.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
11-14-2017, 10:54 AM | #835 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ Hyperblue
Location: West Hartford, CT
Posts: 8,416
Thanks: 22,575
Thanked 9,371 Times in 4,813 Posts
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
I bought mine brand spanking new. To support the cause.
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk |
11-14-2017, 11:00 AM | #836 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
11-14-2017, 11:02 AM | #837 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Series 10
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,116
Thanks: 600
Thanked 1,017 Times in 512 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
They may struggle to sell 8600 units this year in the US market, but what if after development costs, manufacturing, warranty claims, and marketing they are profiting a couple grand per car?
Is it likely that the cost of development, aside from getting the car registered for everything, was so low that everything has been recouped at this point? Especially when you factor in global sales that have to be around something like 150-200,000 at this point. |
The Following User Says Thank You to mazeroni For This Useful Post: | Tcoat (11-14-2017) |
11-14-2017, 11:17 AM | #838 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2016 Subaru BRZ Hyperblue
Location: West Hartford, CT
Posts: 8,416
Thanks: 22,575
Thanked 9,371 Times in 4,813 Posts
Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
|
|
11-14-2017, 11:21 AM | #839 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2494 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
12-06-2017, 05:21 PM | #840 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, M/T argento
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 133
Thanks: 109
Thanked 71 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Nov sales in the US are 256 BRZs and 456 86s. For the heck of it I tried some curve-fitting. The combined sales of the twins roughly follows exponential decay with a half-life of a little over 3 years (every 3 years or so the number of units sold drops by 1/2). It's interesting that the new Miata sales are about the same as the twins.
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to PabloN For This Useful Post: | Mr.Impreza (12-07-2017), terrypm (12-16-2017) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
BRZ and FR-S Sales Thread | Spaceywilly | BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics | 33 | 03-24-2013 02:36 PM |
Production numbers | smiley6570 | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 5 | 06-09-2012 08:50 AM |
part numbers | Staticfrost | BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics | 5 | 05-29-2012 12:02 PM |
Brz Production Numbers | WRB Bandit | BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics | 29 | 03-07-2012 09:53 PM |
Japan BRZ / 86 pre-order numbers | AVOturboworld | BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics | 55 | 01-21-2012 02:18 AM |