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I have KW V3 on 17x9 rims with Yokohama AD08R which are 3 years old but heaps of tread. I have all traction on, and when I take a sharp left hand corner on approach and then while exiting the corner my traction light is going ballistic and im not even cornering fast. I then want to power out it seems to not have traction. would going VSC help ? my thinking is that if its losing grip with traction on with it either on off or VSC it will be worst My current setting for the KW V3 are Rebound Front 13 from hard setting rear 14 from hard setting Bump F 8 from hard setting R 12 from hard setting I read up and well when they say rear is losing traction should soften the rebound which I did from 10 to 14 and still the car just feel like it wont put the power down. I was also advised that to chase the grip I should adjust the compression on the end that lack grip. but then reading more forums they tell you opposite increase front end compression? so confused |
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Do a quick on "pedal dance". I know @CSGMike has a thread on it somewhere.
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I usually don't but that day I was just caught up with tuning the suspension and had it in my head well if I had it off totally i'll be off the track. Other times when I had VSC on and had to slow down to a sharp hairpin turn, I sort advice to soften the rears and that improved the grip,this is a different track though. would compression make big difference when adjusted. I keep reading that is only for bumps etc, and this track is smooth as no bumps |
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100% not the case. I wish I did pedal dance from the start, once you do it you will wonder WTF the computer was "saving" you from.
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IE, if you normally drive in pedal dance mode, but decide you want to make suspension changes, you're changing a variable by then driving with the TC on. |
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08/08 on stock FR-s calipers was also a little wonky sometimes without the pedal dance. It didn't like trail braking in high grip situations. I caught the car trying to straighten itself out going into the toe of the boot at the Glen where you have a ton of mechanical grip diving into the hill. Pedal dance cured that right up. If you can convince PFC to make the 08's for the AP calipers, put me down for a few sets. I run them at all 4 corners on the C4 Vette (3x power with ~550lbs more mass) and they are perfect confident workhorses. |
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Try the pedal dance the other guys have been suggesting before you start making suspension changes. Once you feel truly confident the issue is with the vehicle handling, not the electrical nannies or even the way you're driving (the smoother you are the less chance to trip anything), then start tinkering with mechanics. |
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I was with a instructor once who wanted all aids left on. The entire lap, for every single inch of every corner I had traction control going off pulsing random brakes and slowing me. It's incredibly intrusive. Holding the button untill both orange lights is on will help for that but the braking will still be off. The Pedal dance is definitely the way to go, at least for a session. It's good to learn good habits.
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I know Audi says they want it on the first 2 run groups and Porsche instructors said they are told the students should have it on. But it also depends on your instructor. Talk to them before going out and if you aren't on the same page talk to the head instructor and see if they can find you someone to work with.
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I've experimented with tire pressure from 38 to 28. Around 32 feels better. My Flex Tein Z are 3 clicks from full still so I have room there. I'll be setup to record video and times at the June Apex event. Borrowing a setup I'm around a consistent 1:31 on the 1.7 CCW. |
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Every 3 weeks or so there is a sprint meet anyone can attend. Our local 86/brz club has enough people to fill out a run group of 12-20. We're actually starting to get close to two groups. If you look up lakeside there is a ton of armcos on every runoff point so if you spin, you have a high chance of writing off your car. As such our club makes it so new guys must get some training from a ex race driver that manages the track. Its affordable and gou get a theory class, lines pointed out and about 10-20 laps with him instructing for $100. Our group is also very strict as to pointing someone past and only overtaking on the straights unless pointed past. Great group thats very very safe.
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