2019 Fiesta ST or 2019 Subaru BRZ

[Sgaldi]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

If the car is inherently faster, the auto is just fine. Much more consistent and easier to launch. Less wear and tear on drive train as well

Yea but I’m talkin light jumping...so no 1/4mi. And generally not even making it to 60...I can stay in gear a couple seconds longer

[Lantanafrs2]

Fwd has never felt quite right to me. Must be my age but some of these fwd hatches are pretty friggin quick.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Yea but I’m talkin light jumping...so no 1/4mi. And generally not even making it to 60...I can stay in gear a couple seconds longer

Just wait til the lady in the minivan needs to be somewhere.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by ermax

Does the Focus/Fiesta ST actually come in an auto though?

Edit: Just looked it up. Ford offers an auto now. More evidence that my ability to buy a manual is slipping.

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Those kinds of numbers are where the driver matters more ...I will smoke a auto Camry every time no doubt

Original quote.

Directly preceded by a list of multiple camrys that have a significantly quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. I dont believe they even make a Camry with a manual anymore. Most of the v6 camrys are rated at over 300hp.

This is where I'm at.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Sgaldi

Hmmm, that a head scratcher for a guy who think auto is better ain’t it

Please show me where I said that.

[Busybee]

Originally Posted by korhun

I'm thinking of buying a new car. These are my options:



Ford Fiesta ST Mk8 (with LSD option)

Subaru BRZ (automatic transmission, its the only option here)



I'm 1.84cm tall and around 122kg. Fat for these cars I know

I'll use it almost every day, mainly on low traffic areas, half nice village roads, half highway (autobahn.) (I make ~25000 km a year)

Cargo space and fuel consumption is important (... for my wife ... who rules the earth! )

I love karting and want a car that would give me some feelings like a go-kart does.

Winters are around 0 to -10 degree Celsius here, and it snows for a month or so, every year.

I'm not a fan of how FiST looks. I'm in love with Subaru BRZ. It gives me similar feelings when I look at a Ferrari 360 Modena. But I just want choose the one that I would have more fun while driving it.



It is impossible to have a test drive these cars in where I live. I haven't seen a Fiesta ST yet but sat inside a BRZ. Its driving position was really nice, but I would want the steering wheel could be extended more, I like it closer.



I don't have much experience on RWD cars, except karting. In driving simulations, I like to choose FWD cars more; and drifting is not my thing. However I like making some donuts when it snows.



I will not modify the car. I want to use it the way it is designed.



Any thoughts are very appreciated.

Hi Korhun,

I own one of those blue automatic BRZ
Messaged you

Thanks .


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[korhun]

I could get the car at last




I've changed the oil on ~180 miles, and plan to change again on ~1800 miles. I haven't push the throttle pedal more than around %40-60 and did not exceeded 3500rpm yet. So I don't know the car yet. So I can't say anything on performance, engine noise and breaking. However, my first impressions for the car:

* Comfortable. In rough road surfaces, it is more comfortable than a Renault Clio.
* Great driving position, but I wish I could get the steering wheel upper and nearer. Front visibility is the best I've ever driven. But its hard to see right back side (with your head turned, not the mirrors) which is required sometimes.
* I can turn off the infotainment-radio completely. That's great.
* It is noisy. That's what I wanted.
* I loved the steering wheel responses and feeling. I couldn't forced it yet, but it feels wonderful on the corners. It really is another level, very close to go-kart feeling.
* My car does not have a reverse parking camera or sensors etc. Turn radius is bad. Parallel parking is not easy.
* AT transmission is not bad as I imagined. I still wish it was a manual.

* I think the speedometer (yellow circle) is completely unnecessary.
* I don't hold the wheel 9:15 but ~10:10 so the flappy pedal are out of my reach. I wish it was something like I've drawn in green.
* Manual shifting with the stick is required on some very slow corners. But it is in the false direction. When you push the stick to front, the gear increases. Come on, this is a sports car, it should be the opposite.
* I put the keys to the trunk. Then closed the trunk. Sit in the car, and the car does not start. Requires the key nearer. OK. I get out, tried to open the trunk.. Ugh... I does not open? Thank god this happened in front of my house, so I got the spare keys from home and started the car... I haven't read the manual yet.. I'm sure I'm doing something very wrong, but this seemed dangerous to me.

[ermax]

I believe their are extended paddles you can buy. Search around because there are DIYs on swapping the shifter direction to the correct way. As for the RR blind spot. Try adjusting your mirrors correctly. The correct way is to lean you head to the left and press your face to the glass and then adjust the mirror out until the car is just out of the frame. Then for the other mirror you lean to the right placing your head right above the center line of the cockpit and adjust the mirror out until the car is just out of frame. The rear view is only for looking out the rear and the side views are only for looking out the side. If you adjust them this way you will no longer have a blind spot. In fact, you don’t even have to turn your head to see everything. I was one of those that didn’t adjust my mirrors correctly either. I’ve never had a blind spot to deal with until I got this car and then I discovered that for 20 years I’ve been setting my mirrors incorrectly. Hahaha

[scotto79]

https://www.ft86motorsports.com/cata...dle+extensions
Here are just a few of the paddle extensions for the automatic shifters

[korhun]

Originally Posted by ermax

I believe their are extended paddles you can buy. Search around because there are DIYs on swapping the shifter direction to the correct way. As for the RR blind spot. Try adjusting your mirrors correctly. The correct way is to lean you head to the left and press your face to the glass and then adjust the mirror out until the car is just out of the frame. Then for the other mirror you lean to the right placing your head right above the center line of the cockpit and adjust the mirror out until the car is just out of frame. The rear view is only for looking out the rear and the side views are only for looking out the side. If you adjust them this way you will no longer have a blind spot. In fact, you don’t even have to turn your head to see everything. I was one of those that didn’t adjust my mirrors correctly either. I’ve never had a blind spot to deal with until I got this car and then I discovered that for 20 years I’ve been setting my mirrors incorrectly. Hahaha

Hey. I've been actively driving for 25 years (almost.) I like watching defensive and advanced driving techiques videos. I've given a seminar on defensive driving in the school (amateur thing.) However, your post made me realize that I didn't even know how to adjust the mirrors properly! Oh my god. Thanks..

[ermax]

Originally Posted by korhun

Hey. I've been actively driving for 25 years (almost.) I like watching defensive and advanced driving techiques videos. I've given a seminar on defensive driving in the school (amateur thing.) However, your post made me realize that I didn't even know how to adjust the mirrors properly! Oh my god. Thanks..

I was reading some discussion on Facebook about the new Mazda 3 and how it looked like it would have a mega blind spot. A bunch of people were talking about how no car has a blind spot if you set your mirrors correctly. I always set mine so that the car was just out of frame while my head was in the normal driving position. I had no idea you were supposed to put your face on the glass. Hahaha.

Took a few weeks to get used to not being able to use the side views to look behind me though. It also took a while to trust the new settings. I still glance over my shoulder even though it's a bit redundant.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ermax

A bunch of people were talking about how no car has a blind spot.

A bunch of people have obviously never driven a Camaro!

[korhun]

I have a feeling that parking a Lamborghini Countach is easier than the twins.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by korhun

I have a feeling that parking a Lamborghini Countach is easier than the twins.

Ummmm...
No.


The twins are as easy to park as any modern, inexpensive, two door coupe. Probably easier than many actually.