2012 Mazda RX-9 ???

[ZetaVI]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

But if it does come true.....

It better. I would be pretty happy.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

It better. I would be pretty happy.

Imagine a new RX9 and maybe if Nissan gets off its butt and makes a new Silvia with that Juke 1.6T engine. That would be awesome.

[ZetaVI]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Imagine a new RX9 and maybe if Nissan gets off its butt and makes a new Silvia with that Juke 1.6T engine. That would be awesome.

I can imagine now. So those who complain about the FR-S price have more options to choose from. Consumers need push Mazda and Nissan now.

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

I'll believe it when I see it.

my thoughts exactly..but i also thought the same in 2009 when Toyota announced the FT86 joint with Subaru..and in 2006 the Nissan GTR revival.

Today im pretty hopeful actually with Mazda's claims, and i hope they meet all their goals or at least close to it. And deliver something really promising to us enthusiasts in the future apart from the Miata.

Although even without a rotary Mazda still could bring more enthusiasts if they wanted to..an example would be a proper 323 GTX sucessor? AKA Mazdaspeed 3 AWD

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Imagine a new RX9 and maybe if Nissan gets off its butt and makes a new Silvia with that Juke 1.6T engine. That would be awesome.

I've been saying that about Nissan and their Juke engine for a while.. A new RX9 would make everything better... Long live the 90's car era - especially '98

[Zaku]

Eh I'm more excited about their promise to bring an even Better MX5 that's the car I think everyone is looking out for, another Rotary in this day and age might not be as good as an idea is it's presented. But I do like the idea of them trying to apply in an EV scenerio

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

I've been saying that about Nissan and their Juke engine for a while.. A new RX9 would make everything better... Long live the 90's car era - especially '98

I think we have the same thought process.

Originally Posted by Zaku

Eh I'm more excited about their promise to bring an even Better MX5 that's the car I think everyone is looking out for, another Rotary in this day and age might not be as good as an idea is it's presented. But I do like the idea of them trying to apply in an EV scenerio

A new MX5 is great and all. But give me a new RX-7 or just call it a RX-9. That would make me a happy.

[Sport-Tech]

Well I hope they can keep the program going, the news from Mazda lately is pretty grim, over $1 billion US lost last year, shutting down all commercial vehicle production...

[ZetaVI]

I know many want a MX5 but I think people should starting pushing Mazda RX-9 or w.e they want to call it. I think with a huge following something could happen.

[Lonewolf]

I would love to see this come to fruition.

Just imagine a 16X Rotary with 4-5 mpg improvement in fuel efficiency and 260-285 hp in something that weighs the same as the RX-8....

The RX-8 moved okay with 232 hp, so another 30-50 hp would be a nice kick

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I would love to see this come to fruition.

Just imagine a 16X Rotary with 4-5 mpg improvement in fuel efficiency and 260-285 hp in something that weighs the same as the RX-8....

The RX-8 moved okay with 232 hp, so another 30-50 hp would be a nice kick

What would that put them at, 20-21 city and 27-28 highway? That is better.

[serialk11r]

mmm 1.6L is quite a bit of displacement (3.2L equivalent), if they can hit 20/27 EPA that would be pretty phenomenal IMO. If they can get BSFC to within 10% of traditional piston engines they could squeeze those numbers out.

With a 1.6L engine with significant combustion efficiency improvements you'd be (hopefully) looking at well over 300hp though, since those rotaries rev so high. 100hp/L happens at about 7500rpm redline or so (power peak somewhere in the low 7000s such as on the FA20), 9000rpm gives you over 120hp/L on a well designed street legal engine (such as the S2000, which hits max power in the mid 8000s). 9000rpm with a 1.6L rotary with comparable efficiency to a piston engine would be like 3.2*120=380hp at a bit over 8k rpm :O. The Renesis managed like 230 out of 2.6L effective displacement with a really high redline, so its BSFC at peak power was probably about 25% higher (assuming comparable volumetric efficiency to the F20C). A lot of the fuel consumption is attributed to poor combustion, and so if they can fix the fuel consumption they should be able to increase the power output.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

mmm 1.6L is quite a bit of displacement (3.2L equivalent), if they can hit 20/27 EPA that would be pretty phenomenal IMO. If they can get BSFC to within 10% of traditional piston engines they could squeeze those numbers out.

With a 1.6L engine with significant combustion efficiency improvements you'd be looking at well over 300hp though, since those rotaries rev so high.

If they could get to 300 hp and still meet emissions (the killer with rotaries) and get in the mid twenties for mpg, I would spooge...

[tranzformer]

Do you guys think they would carry on the 2+2 from the RX8 or go back to the 2 seater ala RX7?