SSP A960E Transmission Upgrades - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jason@DSG · 11-22-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

I kind of disagree with that. The DCT is still not refined and has some way to go. The weight and the getting into first gear are always things I hated on MOST Dcts.(and I've tried a lot )

Sent from my IBrick

I disagree with that lol...

I'm running a hair over 3 seconds (3.15) 0-62mph with my DCT. First gear has no delay and shifts are REALLY hard. Like neck snapping each shift unless I'm WOT. That's actually not even with "true" launch control either. I have proper launch control installed now and I'm hoping to break the 3.0 second mark for 0-62mph next spring

It's all about tuning, particularly in the SST (EvoX/Ralliart/GTR world). Once tuning is available for the AT on this platform, it'll be very potent.

Freeman · 11-22-2013, 02:06 PM

The cooler looks like a great piece. At the moment Is there any plans for stronger internals?

sent from my locker... help!

SmsAlSuwaidi · 11-22-2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@DSG

I disagree with that lol...

I'm running a hair over 3 seconds (3.15) 0-62mph with my DCT. First gear has no delay and shifts are REALLY hard. Like neck snapping each shift unless I'm WOT. That's actually not even with "true" launch control either. I have proper launch control installed now and I'm hoping to break the 3.0 second mark for 0-62mph next spring

It's all about tuning, particularly in the SST (EvoX/Ralliart/GTR world). Once tuning is available for the AT on this platform, it'll be very potent.

I'm not talking about shift times, my stock F1 trans shifts pretty quick and I do 3.x with it stock. What I meant is going into first is clumsy it's something hard to explain in words but if you work with DCT you should know. It's like your in natural and then you get into first suddenly. Happens with the PDK and the ferraris F1 a lot but not that concerning with the golfs Dsg.

Weight though is still an issue of dcts

I'm not a hater ofc DCT don't get me wrong, I love my Ferrari gearbox but it's sad to not have that interaction with your car

Sent from my IBrick

8686 · 11-22-2013, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sspkris

SSP A960E Modified Torque Converter
Stall is raised 500-700 RPM above factory specifications, thus helping to get the turbocharged BRZ/FRS's off the line quicker.

So what is the factory stall speed?

Would this benefit NA cars?

white devil · 11-22-2013, 09:59 PM

This is a must for me!!

whataboutbob · 11-23-2013, 12:54 AM

This AT mod pron must be censored from the Internets. My wallet is crying for mercy after each post showing upgrades for my AT.

Captain Insano · 11-23-2013, 08:21 AM

Ditto that. I will be staying NA... And I have been fighting the modification bug, but seeing this stuff for the AT and also considering my plans for a final drive change has my savings account nervous about losing some weight. I think this AT is already awesome for a slushbox AT, very sophisticated "do-it-all" trans for lazy daily driving but also aggressive shifts in sport auto or manual mode. Couple what I already consider a great AT with the SSP mods coming and a 4.88 final drive with these AT gear ratios, my mouth is watering.

sspkris · 11-23-2013, 10:24 AM

So what is the factory stall speed?

Would this benefit NA cars?

The BRZ/FRS have a factory stall of 2540 +/- 150 rpm
A stall would benefit both a turbo or N/A car.

chiefshayan · 11-24-2013, 06:28 AM

YEEEEEEEEESSS!!!!!!!!

I know the FRS/BRZ automatic tranny market isn't as big as the gtr, m3, and porsche pdk system, BUT just want to thank you guys for developing these gorgeous parts that I will definitely purchase when released.

One question, do you think that this transmission will ever have the ability to be launched from a dig safely? Of course down the road when you and other companies (hopefully) put out parts for the automatic in the future?

Lonewolf · 11-25-2013, 12:10 PM

So, anything other than the cooler and torque converter on the way?

Ross · 11-25-2013, 01:41 PM

I am curious if you have upgraded a valve body yet for quicker shifting and if so how has the trans controller dealt with it? Have you messed with modifying any pressures yet as well? Higher flow solenoids?

feldy · 11-25-2013, 02:05 PM

Sure wish @EcuTek sees this and changes there mind from the tuning front.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@DSG

I disagree with that lol...

I'm running a hair over 3 seconds (3.15) 0-62mph with my DCT. First gear has no delay and shifts are REALLY hard. Like neck snapping each shift unless I'm WOT. That's actually not even with "true" launch control either. I have proper launch control installed now and I'm hoping to break the 3.0 second mark for 0-62mph next spring

It's all about tuning, particularly in the SST (EvoX/Ralliart/GTR world). Once tuning is available for the AT on this platform, it'll be very potent.

sspkris · 11-25-2013, 09:03 PM

Yes there are more parts that have been developed. They will be released next week.

SSP

Jason@DSG · 11-26-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

So, anything other than the cooler and torque converter on the way?

SSP typically manufacturers clutch plate/steel high-performance replacements for AT and DCT transmissions. This will reduce shift-slip in higher power AT applications.

There was an even a picture from SSP on this thread showing the plates they removed. I would imagine they would also be releasing upgraded plates for this application.

I'm sure more information will be released shortly.

11-22-2013, 09:59 PM	#33
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11-24-2013, 06:28 AM	#37
chiefshayan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 AT Firestorm FRS Location: Berkeley Posts: 433 Thanks: 185 Thanked 184 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	YEEEEEEEEESSS!!!!!!!! I know the FRS/BRZ automatic tranny market isn't as big as the gtr, m3, and porsche pdk system, BUT just want to thank you guys for developing these gorgeous parts that I will definitely purchase when released. One question, do you think that this transmission will ever have the ability to be launched from a dig safely? Of course down the road when you and other companies (hopefully) put out parts for the automatic in the future? Last edited by chiefshayan; 11-24-2013 at 06:42 AM.

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Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ditto that. I will be staying NA... And I have been fighting the modification bug, but seeing this stuff for the AT and also considering my plans for a final drive change has my savings account nervous about losing some weight. I think this AT is already awesome for a slushbox AT, very sophisticated "do-it-all" trans for lazy daily driving but also aggressive shifts in sport auto or manual mode. Couple what I already consider a great AT with the SSP mods coming and a 4.88 final drive with these AT gear ratios, my mouth is watering.

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sspkris Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nissan GTR Location: Minnesota Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 77 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So what is the factory stall speed? Would this benefit NA cars? The BRZ/FRS have a factory stall of 2540 +/- 150 rpm A stall would benefit both a turbo or N/A car.

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