Brake pads to swap between for DD and Track Days - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jim985 · 12-21-2020, 02:47 AM

I am looking to get 2 sets of brake pads, one for DD and the other for Trackdays.

Tried searching the forum but could only find topics about pads for dual purpose.

I have the AP racing sprint kit on the car, and have previously had DS2500 in it for dual purpose, however I found them completely unsuitable on the street due to how loud they are.

I am a beginner with track days and am pretty light on the brakes, but I want to improve this coming season.

I don't want to swap rotors each track day, just want to swap pads before the first session, so I was looking at trying to find 2 compounds that will work well on the same rotor.

I have my eye on Hawk HPS 5.0 for street pads and DTC-30 for the track, as I can get these for a decent price locally.

Does anyone know if these compounds are compatible and suitable for what I want?

Also open to any other options, but I find it hard to find pads for the AP Racing kit in Australia. I will import if I have to, but the shipping charges are a killer.

Thanks in advance

gen3v8 · 12-21-2020, 03:29 AM

I put my track pads in a week before and I always put the same pad in the same position in the caliper. I mark the street pads and the track pads LI, LO, RI and RO.
So whats wrong with DS2500 for track only as you did not say.

churchx · 12-21-2020, 04:17 AM

DS2500 works fine for me on stock (non PP brembos) twins brakes though.
Also which AP racing kit you have?

jim985 · 12-21-2020, 04:53 AM

I have the Essex AP Racing sprint kit.

I didn't have any performance issue with the DS2500 on track, however when asking the supplier for a less aggressive ferodo pad (for Street use) for these callipers I was told that there was not one available.

I figure that if I am going for dedicated track pads it wouldn't hurt to go one step up from the DS2500

I still have DS2500 in the rear as they are working fine there, but I'll swap them out to match whatever I end up running in the fronts in the future

gen3v8 · 12-21-2020, 05:16 AM

wrong discussion

Captain Snooze · 12-21-2020, 05:59 AM

I use Carbotech 1521 for street. Sprint kit fitted.
Carbotech has an office in Aus. https://carbotech.com.au/

jim985 · 12-21-2020, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I use Carbotech 1521 for street. Sprint kit fitted.
Carbotech has an office in Aus. https://carbotech.com.au/

Cheers, I will give them a call.

jflogerzi · 12-22-2020, 06:08 PM

I run Carbotech 1521's for street and XP10/XP8's for track setup. You can use the same rotor with both sets of pads

Molez93 · 12-23-2020, 10:00 PM

Another suggestion for using Carbotech. I’m switching between XP12 for track and AX6 for street/autocross duty. Frankly, I’d didn’t like the feel of Carbotechs I’d tried before this setup on the BRZ. No complaints regarding performance and ease of switching/swapping. Noise, however, would be an issue for most people.

AP BBK Sprints up front. OE rear calipers and rotors

jim985 · 12-24-2020, 04:42 AM

Ordered some Carbotech 1521 and XP10. Thanks for the recommendations

jflogerzi · 12-24-2020, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molez93

Another suggestion for using Carbotech. I’m switching between XP12 for track and AX6 for street/autocross duty. Frankly, I’d didn’t like the feel of Carbotechs I’d tried before this setup on the BRZ. No complaints regarding performance and ease of switching/swapping. Noise, however, would be an issue for most people.

AP BBK Sprints up front. OE rear calipers and rotors

My XP10's/8's were quiet once I got them bedded in after the first session. How noisy are the AX6 on street and low speed stops?? Its gonna be longgg time before I go through the 1521's

Molez93 · 12-24-2020, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

My XP10's/8's were quiet once I got them bedded in after the first session. How noisy are the AX6 on street and low speed stops?? Its gonna be longgg time before I go through the 1521's

My AX6 pads are essentially as noisy as the track pads on the street. Which is to say, consistently like a bus unless I’m using heavy peddle pressure. I feel like they were kinda sorta quiet with appropriate lube applied to the right spots when swapping, but that didn’t seem to work every time so I gave up trying after a couple noise inducing swaps.

new2subaru · 12-24-2020, 08:54 PM

It sounds like the Sprint kit is noisy in general on the street. I hope that's not the case because it's been on my radar for some time...

Pat · 12-24-2020, 10:01 PM

I have not found that to be the case.

12-21-2020, 02:47 AM	#1
jim985 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Drives: BRZ Location: Sydney Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Brake pads to swap between for DD and Track Days I am looking to get 2 sets of brake pads, one for DD and the other for Trackdays. Tried searching the forum but could only find topics about pads for dual purpose. I have the AP racing sprint kit on the car, and have previously had DS2500 in it for dual purpose, however I found them completely unsuitable on the street due to how loud they are. I am a beginner with track days and am pretty light on the brakes, but I want to improve this coming season. I don't want to swap rotors each track day, just want to swap pads before the first session, so I was looking at trying to find 2 compounds that will work well on the same rotor. I have my eye on Hawk HPS 5.0 for street pads and DTC-30 for the track, as I can get these for a decent price locally. Does anyone know if these compounds are compatible and suitable for what I want? Also open to any other options, but I find it hard to find pads for the AP Racing kit in Australia. I will import if I have to, but the shipping charges are a killer. Thanks in advance

12-21-2020, 03:29 AM	#2
gen3v8 30 minute maintenance Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts Location: Botany Bay Posts: 1,151 Thanks: 746 Thanked 1,194 Times in 613 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I put my track pads in a week before and I always put the same pad in the same position in the caliper. I mark the street pads and the track pads LI, LO, RI and RO. So whats wrong with DS2500 for track only as you did not say. __________________ Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88

12-21-2020, 05:16 AM	#5
gen3v8 30 minute maintenance Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts Location: Botany Bay Posts: 1,151 Thanks: 746 Thanked 1,194 Times in 613 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	wrong discussion __________________ Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88 Last edited by gen3v8; 12-22-2020 at 03:13 AM.

12-21-2020, 05:59 AM	#6
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,737 Thanks: 3,999 Thanked 9,379 Times in 4,137 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I use Carbotech 1521 for street. Sprint kit fitted. Carbotech has an office in Aus. https://carbotech.com.au/ __________________ My car is completely stock except for all the mods.

12-23-2020, 10:00 PM	#9
Molez93 Scott M Join Date: Jul 2018 Drives: '13 BRZ (DocWalt's old car) Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 78 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another suggestion for using Carbotech. I’m switching between XP12 for track and AX6 for street/autocross duty. Frankly, I’d didn’t like the feel of Carbotechs I’d tried before this setup on the BRZ. No complaints regarding performance and ease of switching/swapping. Noise, however, would be an issue for most people. AP BBK Sprints up front. OE rear calipers and rotors __________________ 13 BRZ (STX prep) 14 Lotus Evora S 06 BMW Z4M Roadster, 01 740i Last edited by Molez93; 12-23-2020 at 10:02 PM. Reason: Brake hardware

12-21-2020, 04:17 AM	#3
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	DS2500 works fine for me on stock (non PP brembos) twins brakes though. Also which AP racing kit you have?

12-21-2020, 04:53 AM	#4
jim985 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Drives: BRZ Location: Sydney Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have the Essex AP Racing sprint kit. I didn't have any performance issue with the DS2500 on track, however when asking the supplier for a less aggressive ferodo pad (for Street use) for these callipers I was told that there was not one available. I figure that if I am going for dedicated track pads it wouldn't hurt to go one step up from the DS2500 I still have DS2500 in the rear as they are working fine there, but I'll swap them out to match whatever I end up running in the fronts in the future

12-24-2020, 04:42 AM	#10
jim985 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Drives: BRZ Location: Sydney Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ordered some Carbotech 1521 and XP10. Thanks for the recommendations

12-24-2020, 08:54 PM	#13
new2subaru Weight Weenie Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 15 FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 2,592 Thanks: 5,028 Thanked 2,333 Times in 1,349 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It sounds like the Sprint kit is noisy in general on the street. I hope that's not the case because it's been on my radar for some time...

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