Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.

[Sonolin]

$3500 including tune and cable?

That's really good! I'm liking the price point

[Jeff86]

I've had two different roots blowers on two different four cylinders (Mazda and Honda) with no cooling and never had any problems even in summer here in the south. Last one made 280whp. If I went this route I doubt I'd buy the cooling when they offer it. Twin screws are more efficient and have less heat issues than roots blowers.

[robispec]

Yes will be offered as an upgrade.

[Subzero]

[ame]http://youtu.be/Xlq3XspyBH0[/ame]

That's the sound of someone trying to enjoy their car, without getting a ticket. .

*Mash*shift*Mash*part throttle with clutch slip*wait for iiiiiiiiit*Mash*Wheeeeeeee!

Every single one of us has done this.

[robispec]

Yeah puts a big grin on my face EVERYTIME. I feel so juvenile...and dont care!

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by robispec

Yes will be offered as an upgrade.

I'm wondering about CARB approval? Has there been any news about CARB, and would that apply to both non-intercooled & intercooled kits or just one in particular?

[mines13]

The status of how the intercooler setup will come to market has not been finalized. It may be an accessory, it may be part of a different version of the kit, or maybe both. As is, an oil cooler will be a more significant upgrade then the intercooler on the base kit. I would say that about a stock FA20 too. Not to beat an already well flogged, very dead horse.

[JoeBoxer]

Sounds like i need to come up with a package deal of Innovate supercharger, Perrin oil cooler, and 3" Perrin exhaust.

[The Racers Line]

I keep telling myself to wait until my car is out of warranty, but this kit is just looking too good!

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by Calidownhiller

I keep telling myself to wait until my car is out of warranty, but this kit is just looking too good!

This looks to be the easiest FI kit to install and remove, so if you're worried about bringing your car in for service work, just unbolt, reflash, and go.

[Jeff86]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Sounds like i need to come up with a package deal of Innovate supercharger, Perrin oil cooler, and 3" Perrin exhaust.

I don't believe a 3" exhaust would be optimum with the supercharger. We all went 2.5" on the SC'd Hondas until going turbo and pushing past 300whp. Exhaust velocity is still an important factor and the SC is a more NA-like situation since it doesn't touch the exhaust system.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Jeff86

I don't believe a 3" exhaust would be optimum with the supercharger. We all went 2.5" on the SC'd Hondas until going turbo and pushing past 300whp. Exhaust velocity is still an important factor and the SC is a more NA-like situation since it doesn't touch the exhaust system.

We can do either, will leave it up to the customer to decide

[Jeff86]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

We can do either, will leave it up to the customer to decide

Just trying to help the community . After a lot of dyno research, the 2.5" produced the best overall results on the SCd cars under 300whp.

"The astute exhaust designer knows that you must balance flow capacity with velocity. You want the exhaust gases to exit the chamber and speed along at the highest velocity possible - you want a FAST exhaust stream. If you have two exhaust pulses of equal volume, one in a 2" pipe and one in a 3" pipe, the pulse in the 2" pipe will be traveling considerably FASTER than the pulse in the 3" pipe. While it is true that the narrower the pipe, the higher the velocity of the exiting gases, you want make sure the pipe is wide enough so that there is as little backpressure as possible while maintaining suitable exhaust gas velocity. Backpressure in it's most extreme form can lead to reversion of the exhaust stream - that is to say the exhaust flows backwards, which is not good. The trick is to have a pipe that that is as narrow as possible while having as close to zero backpressure as possible at the RPM range you want your power band to be located at. Exhaust pipe diameters are best suited to a particular RPM range. A smaller pipe diameter will produce higher exhaust velocities at a lower RPM but create unacceptably high amounts of backpressure at high rpm. Thus if your powerband is located 2-3000 RPM you'd want a narrower pipe than if your powerband is located at 8-9000RPM."

From the article here:
http://forums.tunedimports.net/showt...why-it-s-wrong

I believe we'd see some similar results here since this motor is actually happier in a somewhat lower rpm range.

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by Jeff86

I don't believe a 3" exhaust would be optimum with the supercharger. We all went 2.5" on the SC'd Hondas until going turbo and pushing past 300whp. Exhaust velocity is still an important factor and the SC is a more NA-like situation since it doesn't touch the exhaust system.

While I would tend to agree that a significant gain won't be had by going 3" at such a low HP level, you are going to have a very hard time coming up with actual data to support that there is a loss. Positive manifold pressure will help to overcome any internal EGR and a well tuned ECU will ensure that the cam overlap is ideal per RPM and TP (or load rather)

Im not saying 3" is a good idea, it will be ungodly loud, harder to package properly, and not really very beneficial. But every forum seems to develop a group of users who swear on things like exhaust scavenging...ad back pressure helping to make power...most if not all of that is done at the merger in the collector, after the merger, you just want to decrease back pressure that is how you maintain exhaust gas velocity in the primaries, by not creating a backlog downstream.