coils or lowering springs? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Gunman · 12-14-2018, 04:27 PM

For looks mostly, I'd go springs. I've been running Hotchkis drop springs, on OEM dampers for over 70k daily driver miles, and lots of weekend twisty mountain driving, and I have no complaints.

jflogerzi · 12-14-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

If you plan to get aftermarket rims -- consider this, are you going to get wheels that require coilovers with the smaller spring perch? If you do -- then I would go for coilovers (Tein Flex Z / A).

Also -- consider the mileage on your existing suspension. Are you around 50-60k miles? Might as well overhaul your suspension. If you're like 10k-20k miles then I would just get springs since dampers are still good.

I will echo this. Another option if you can find it is a used cheap set of 2017+ OEM damper(not PP ones) and add your springs. I went this route with Yellow Springs, camber bolts and rear LCAs.

Stang70Fastback · 12-14-2018, 06:21 PM

I'm not going to argue one vs the other, but I just want to point out that my KW V3 coilovers are quite comfortable, and pretty close to stock ride comfort. It's one of the reason I chose them as I live in Chicago, where the roads are horrid.

Grey86 · 12-15-2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

If you plan to get aftermarket rims -- consider this, are you going to get wheels that require coilovers with the smaller spring perch? If you do -- then I would go for coilovers (Tein Flex Z / A).

Also -- consider the mileage on your existing suspension. Are you around 50-60k miles? Might as well overhaul your suspension. If you're like 10k-20k miles then I would just get springs since dampers are still good.

ill get aftermarket rims but thats planned on years down the road im slowly trying to build this how i want it without breaking the bank at once. ive already got a body kit on the car ive got a exhaust coming in the next month and im about to purchase spacers for the stock wheels to have that flush look.
The car only has 7000km (4300 miles i think) and ive owned it for a year now (its a small town nothing over 5 minutes)

Impureclient · 12-15-2018, 03:54 PM

Why aren't leaf springs ever an option?

x808drifter · 12-15-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient

Why aren't leaf springs ever an option?

I like these better.

DarkPira7e · 12-15-2018, 06:09 PM

My view is also that coilovers can add a lot of complexity for suspension tuning. With springs generally you're just adjusting camber. Coilovers have a lot more fine tuning that CAN be done (especially those with different top hats) and this also leaves a lot more room for error. I'll take a spring that I can't mess up, rather than coilovers for my DD needs.

Impureclient · 12-15-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter

I like these better.

That looks like it might be uncomfortable to work with, this one looks more pliable and give a more compliant ride:

pinoy_dorifto · 12-16-2018, 01:01 PM

Swift Spec-R on mine, 1" drop I daily and I track, also have camber plates on top for more camber. Great combo with my MY17 shocks and TRD USA sway bars.

Gunman · 12-17-2018, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Impureclient

Why aren't leaf springs ever an option?

It's an option, but installation is a bit more complex. I'd go transverse mounted, and it would also lower Cg.

firekat · 12-17-2018, 12:22 PM

Transverse Leaf Spring? Been there, done that (Triumph Spitfire/GT-6).

Who votes for Torsion Bars? Did that too - Porsche 924 Turbo.

TMF · 12-17-2018, 12:56 PM

TRD springs + Koni yellows (direct replacements). Looks good and rides great - the Koni's are adjustable, so you can go from as soft as stock up to pretty darn stiff. For reference, the wheels are 17x9, +35 with 225's (these tires run wide) and had no fitment issues.

Unless you really need the performance or ride height adjustability of coilovers (and want to increase your budget), lowering springs are a great choice. There are plenty of great spring options for this platform, and pairing them with Koni's will allow you to preserve your ride comfort.

Gunman · 12-17-2018, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firekat

Transverse Leaf Spring? Been there, done that (Triumph Spitfire/GT-6).

Who votes for Torsion Bars? Did that too - Porsche 924 Turbo.

Corvette still uses the transverse leaf.

firekat · 12-17-2018, 10:39 PM

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Corvette still uses the transverse leaf.

Didn't know that.

12-14-2018, 06:21 PM	#17
Stang70Fastback A.K.A. Starlord Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2015 Series.Blue Location: Illinois Posts: 1,842 Thanks: 845 Thanked 2,099 Times in 834 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I'm not going to argue one vs the other, but I just want to point out that my KW V3 coilovers are quite comfortable, and pretty close to stock ride comfort. It's one of the reason I chose them as I live in Chicago, where the roads are horrid. __________________ . Check out my blog, read all about my BRZ adventures, and oogle my sweet cell-phone photos! You can also find me on Instagram, and on Facebook.

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TMF Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: '14 FRS TT5 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 228 Thanks: 140 Thanked 124 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	TRD springs + Koni yellows (direct replacements). Looks good and rides great - the Koni's are adjustable, so you can go from as soft as stock up to pretty darn stiff. For reference, the wheels are 17x9, +35 with 225's (these tires run wide) and had no fitment issues. Unless you really need the performance or ride height adjustability of coilovers (and want to increase your budget), lowering springs are a great choice. There are plenty of great spring options for this platform, and pairing them with Koni's will allow you to preserve your ride comfort. __________________ Follow my NASA TT5 build here: JHill Motorsports Last edited by TMF; 12-26-2018 at 11:03 AM.

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