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Old 11-21-2016, 09:33 AM   #4327
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That sounds awesome....in the states we pay one price ranging from $200-$500 for 1 day with 4-5, 20-30 minute sessions.
You should come track in the Midwest.

We're getting 6 or 7 20-25min sessions for ~$160-280. My first track weekend at Road America was $405 for two days, with 2 hours and 15 min (3- 20min and 3-25min sessions) of track time each day.

Not a huge difference, but definitely getting a bit more seat time for your money.

Btw, those prices were from running with GPS, Track Time, MVP Track Time and Gridlife. Although Gridlife was slightly more expensive than the other two for $/track time.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:50 AM   #4328
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You should come track in the Midwest.

We're getting 6 or 7 20-25min sessions for ~$160-280. My first track weekend at Road America was $405 for two days, with 2 hours and 15 min (3- 20min and 3-25min sessions) of track time each day.
Yes, I am aware of your cheap track days and for that I am envious. I assume the price difference has to do with the fact that we only have 6 months that we are able to have track days due to weather. All though, I would gladly pay for a winter track day with a few inches of snow on the track with a studded snow tire WRX. Up the esses at Watkins glen would be amazing...and down into turn 6 would be terrifying.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:01 AM   #4329
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Yes, I am aware of your cheap track days and for that I am envious. I assume the price difference has to do with the fact that we only have 6 months that we are able to have track days due to weather. All though, I would gladly pay for a winter track day with a few inches of snow on the track with a studded snow tire WRX. Up the esses at Watkins glen would be amazing...and down into turn 6 would be terrifying.
We get roughly the same window for track day weather, Apr. through Oct. Although you run the risk of having a pretty cold track, and possible snow, in the opening and closing months.

This was from my first track day, in April, this past season


Side note: ZII* do surprisingly well when it's snowing at the track. lol

In the winter we get our speed fix by racing on frozen lakes up in Wisconsin.

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We get snow attacks up here in Quebec. Most tracks organize some kind of drift or lapping days with the track frozen solid with snow over the ice. Meaning very little grip but amazing slides.
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We get snow attacks up here in Quebec. Most tracks organize some kind of drift or lapping days with the track frozen solid with snow over the ice. Meaning very little grip but amazing slides.
That sounds awesome. I'd totally do a track day on my WS80s, or build a set of studded tires if they'd allow it. haha

Road America does winter autox/rallyx, but it's kinda tough since you're never really guaranteed snow. They do them at the Milwaukee Mile on the infield track too. One event this past winter was completely dry with temps in the mid-40s or so, and since nobody wanted to eat up their winter tires there were only about 16 cars. I brought my stock wheels/tires up, and did probably 80+ runs on what pretty much became a high speed autox course.
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Japan does things a bit differently. Depending on the track, you usually pay a yearly fee, ranging from $200-400. Then there is open track days scattered throughout the month and you pay $30-60 for a 30-40 minute session. How would you guys say this compares to the states when you break it down to time/cost?
Depends on how frequently you go and the variety of tracks you want. Like above, average for is $200-$300 for ~5x ~20 minute sessions. Seems like Japan is a winner if you go at least once a month, down to ~$100/day for equivalent seat time, but that's limited to one track which might suck.

If you can go more frequently than that then it's a real bargain. If you can only get out once or twice or thrice a year then it's on par with the U.S.

Barring those super cheap track days sharkbait gets in the MidWest.

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I'm still on both the pad AND tired I was on at that track day.
If you'd like me to break down the cost of how much life I took out of those items during that day, it's not going to happen.
I ballparked my autox costs, depending on how long I stretch the tires it's at least $50/event. And that's for less than 10 minutes of hard driving, 100+ minutes on track? Even if I got some really durable consumables I can't imagine getting costs under $150/HPDE for an 86 without driving like a granny, gas alone is ~$40 if you can dodge the pump at the track.

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Barring those super cheap track days sharkbait gets in the MidWest.
About the only thing that's made moving out here from Arizona worthwhile. Well, I suppose meeting my future wife, advancing my career, and making some lifelong friends made it worthwhile too. But it's mostly about the "cheap" track time.
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About the only thing that's made moving out here from Arizona worthwhile. Well, I suppose meeting my future wife, advancing my career, and making some lifelong friends made it worthwhile too. But it's mostly about the "cheap" track time.
I've considered it just so I can own a house, cheap track time would ease the pain.

PNW might be a nice compromise. I remember looking at Texas (I don't think I can handle snow) but it looks like the entire autox scene is in Dallas, COTA is expensive as fuck and the rest of the tracks with turns are on the coast.
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I've considered it just so I can own a house, cheap track time would ease the pain.

PNW might be a nice compromise. I remember looking at Texas (I don't think I can handle snow) but it looks like the entire autox scene is in Dallas, COTA is expensive as fuck and the rest of the tracks with turns are on the coast.
I love the PNW, my brother is in Seattle, but I don't think the wifey-to-be could handle all the rain.

We both really like Nashville though. Housing is cheap, fun place to live, and some pretty great race tracks within reasonable distance. I guess we'll see what the future holds.
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just to compare;
In Australia I can get to track days at Eastern Creek for $340 (AUD) and Wakefield park for $260 (multiple sessions, about 1.5-2hrs track time)
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I've considered it just so I can own a house, cheap track time would ease the pain.

PNW might be a nice compromise. I remember looking at Texas (I don't think I can handle snow) but it looks like the entire autox scene is in Dallas, COTA is expensive as fuck and the rest of the tracks with turns are on the coast.
Hey, we've got a great little track just outside of Ft. Worth! And if you're a member, sessions are only $25.
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I'm getting Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's as my track tire for next year, mounting on stock wheels.
Only do track driving, no AutoX, maybe a little bit of lapping on kart tracks.
Should I go 215/45/17 or 225/45/17 (price is the same)?
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Depends on how frequently you go and the variety of tracks you want. Like above, average for is $200-$300 for ~5x ~20 minute sessions. Seems like Japan is a winner if you go at least once a month, down to ~$100/day for equivalent seat time, but that's limited to one track which might suck.

If you can go more frequently than that then it's a real bargain. If you can only get out once or twice or thrice a year then it's on par with the U.S.

Barring those super cheap track days sharkbait gets in the MidWest.


Yeah, if you only plan on doing a few times a year in japan, its best to go with an orginization that rents the track for the day, you usually pay 200ish for 3x20 min sessions. Tskubua is a real bargain at under 200 for a yearly membership and 30 bucks for i think a 30 minute session.
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