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8RZ · 04-25-2018, 02:35 PM

I miss when car models had names and not just numbers and letters lol.

Tcoat · 04-25-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SCQTT

No, actually its not.

Chevrolet, Ford, Cadillac, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota, Datsun, BMW, Audi, Harley Davidson, Yamaha, etc.

Most are historic and have ties to the original founder.

Lexus is some made up shit from the west coast to distance themselves from the disgusting nature of the Toyota nameplate. How dare the economy brand become an engineering powerhouse and dominate worldwide basic transportation and any racing they decide to participate in. Yeah, that's embarrassing, let's distance ourselves from that and make up a name that sounds like the western word for opulence.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I sort of meant the "Upper" level names. Like Genesis, Acura and Infinity.

stlgrym3 · 04-25-2018, 07:01 PM

since ES is rumored to replace GS for good, i expect the price to go up for the 2019 ES. we'll be looking at close to $50K for a loaded front wheel drive family sedan. i'd get a fully loaded '19 Camry XSE V6 for around $33K.

krayzie · 04-25-2018, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 8RZ

I miss when car models had names and not just numbers and letters lol.

Are you Windom?

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Originally Posted by stlgrym3

since ES is rumored to replace GS for good

RIP Aristo. Lexus just copied Acura's move.

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SCQTT · 04-26-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Sorry I wasn't clear. I sort of meant the "Upper" level names. Like Genesis, Acura and Infinity.

All fake names, made up to sidestep their Asian origins for western customers. If I were Asian I'd be offended.

At least Tesla is a well deserved nod to an electrical pioneer and genius.

Even Hummer had a more organic and honest brand name.

Tcoat · 04-26-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SCQTT

All fake names, made up to sidestep their Asian origins for western customers. If I were Asian I'd be offended.

At least Tesla is a well deserved nod to an electrical pioneer and genius.

Even Hummer had a more organic and honest brand name.

Yep! Also to attempt to impart a vision of superiority.

PhyrraM · 04-26-2018, 10:11 AM

The ES. The epitome of a grandpa car. Don't see that changing. It's worked well for Toyota since the inception of Lexus.

HachiRokuX · 04-26-2018, 11:36 AM

I love it, looks like a baby 2019 LS. I also love the new Avalon's front bumper..

The "aggressive" look is growing on me

mav1178 · 04-26-2018, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

fixed

Both are same platform, GA-K.

daiheadjai · 04-26-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Both are same platform, GA-K.

Unfortunate name for a platform.

GACK!

mav1178 · 04-26-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Unfortunate name for a platform.

GACK!

Fortunately they never call it by abbreviations internally, they just refer to it as the "K" platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota...l_Architecture

C, K, or L platforms.

Tcoat · 04-26-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Both are same platform, GA-K.

"Global Architecture"
Lets not confuse the nincompoops with the term "platform" again!

gymratter · 04-26-2018, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Both are same platform, GA-K.

yes, but its more or less the same size as the Avalon.

Avalon
Wheelbase 113.0 in
Length 196.0 in

ES
Wheelbase 113.0 in
Length 195.3 in

Camry
Wheelbase 111.2 in
Length 192.1 in

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stlgrym3 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2017 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: socal Posts: 562 Thanks: 72 Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	since ES is rumored to replace GS for good, i expect the price to go up for the 2019 ES. we'll be looking at close to $50K for a loaded front wheel drive family sedan. i'd get a fully loaded '19 Camry XSE V6 for around $33K.

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