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12-20-2011, 02:52 AM | #1 |
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Goodbye American Civil Rights. You no longer exist
http://www.viewshound.com/politics-u...y-america-died
Obama signed the bill. Better not grow any beards, protest, or look suspicious! Late on this but... guess the almighty country is down the shitter!
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WOW he did? Must be some pressing reason like intel probably picked up on some serious retaliation activity since Bin Laden's assassination. Otherwise Obama signing it is ludicrous.
I used to work next to an airfield in San Diego. Anybody could take pilot classes there. The terrorist pilots of 9/11 learned to fly on that airfield and they lived down the street from my office building. So they can be anywhere. But this signing is a declaration of fear. Anybody watch Apocalypto? Fundamental example of what fear does to a civilization.
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If you're really worried about jackbooted thugs kicking your door down and holding you without cause, protect yourself. Setup something with a friend or parents to contact a lawyer if you disappear. You can still file habeas if you've been detained by the military. I have a very strong feeling that the courts will not allow what you think is going to happen to happen. They haven't when it comes to Guantanamo detainees. The courts have the power to invalidate unconstitutional bits of legislation, and have on numerous occasions since the war on terror began.
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12-20-2011, 09:21 AM | #6 |
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Are you for real Giccin?
Do some research about the National Defense Authorization Act before you run around saying the sky is falling, its not a big deal unless youre a terrorist. |
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I don't get all the hype around this. This doesn't apply to US citizens if I read the bill correctly.
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12-20-2011, 09:47 AM | #8 |
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You don't get it do you? This bill says that American citizens can be detained by the military without cause and without right to a trial just because they are "terrorists". Let me repeat that again AMERICAN CITIZENS CAN BE DETAINED WITHOUT CAUSE OR WITHOUT TRIAL. Who sets the definition for terrorist? Is it someone with a suicide bomb strapped to them? Or is it someone who could be protesting wall street that throws something at a building? Freedom isn't taken in one swift action, it's chipped away until it's all gone. The foundation of this country is built on the bill of rights which includes the right to a trial. This bill effectively curtails those rights. Out only hope left with this thing is for the courts to overturn it. The first sign this was going to pass was when we killed that American cleric by assassination and no one raised an objection. He was an American citizen who was not provided a trial. Was he a bad guy? Yeah, but that doesn't mean he should lose his rights as an American because of it.
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Yes it does, at the request of the administration American citizens were included as possible detainees.
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Just wanted to add this quote by Martin Niemoller:
"First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me." |
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Link to the full Bill Note: This link is a search result and will time out after a few days....just type "1031" into the query box and you will get to it again. Quote:
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Thanks for outlining that Oneday.
The media really can get the best of the public under the right circumstances. I love this country, and hate terrorists; so I am glad this bill was signed. |
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oneday: Don't bother, I posted that info before, no one likes to actually have to read and understand the bill in question. Instead it's easier to freak out I guess.
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