follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-20-2012, 04:20 AM   #57
Dark
Elite Padawan
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanks: 197
Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r View Post
Mini and GTI aren't good comparisons, they have turbos making tons of boost at low rpm.
I thought RX8 had more like 232hp though? That puts it better than the FRS...

Anyways 1/4 mile reaches higher speeds so FRS could have advantage over Celica with lower drag and more power. They also have similar gearing. My guess is slightly better than Celica in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So maybe similar to RX8.
I believe so too. FRS could be a tad slower or faster than rx-8 but not a whole second.
__________________
Dark
Dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 05:44 AM   #58
Levi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Drives: Toyota
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,202
Thanks: 134
Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by serialk11r View Post
Mini and GTI aren't good comparisons, they have turbos making tons of boost at low rpm.
I thought RX8 had more like 232hp though? That puts it better than the FRS...

Anyways 1/4 mile reaches higher speeds so FRS could have advantage over Celica with lower drag and more power. They also have similar gearing. My guess is slightly better than Celica in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So maybe similar to RX8.
Do you change gears at low rpm or high rpm? Turboed cars have no much boost at high rpm.
Levi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 05:53 AM   #59
SUB-FT86
86 Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt)
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Posts: 3,129
Thanks: 126
Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by miata View Post
RX8 weight: 2888-3039 lb(manual), HP: 237hp. lb/hp = 12.8 , 0-60mph = 6.3 sec

2011 MINI Cooper S 2668 lb, 181 hp = 14.7 lb/hp, 0-60mph = 6.2 sec

2010 GTI 3034lb, 200 hp = 15.2 lb/hp , 0-60mph = 6.9 sec.

FRS weight: 2750 lb ? HP: 200hp. lb/hp = 13.8 , 0-60mph = 5.9 sec sounds reasonable.
FIXED!!!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-8
SUB-FT86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 08:34 AM   #60
MrVito
Grumpy Old Man
 
MrVito's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Drives: 2016 Halo FR-S, 2010 Tundra, 80 626
Location: Georgia
Posts: 293
Thanks: 2
Thanked 19 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Rx8 gear and final drive ratios, also consider that it redlines at 9000, so despite the 4.78:1 rear end, the high redline helps stretch out those shift points. Also included is the BRZ ratios. Beyond all of this you have to take into consideration tire size, frontal area of the car, coefficient of drag, shift time, etc, as well as the optimal shift points based off of the torque curve of the vehicle.

http://www.perfectshifting.com/

Tends to be a decent calculator for this.
Attached Images
  
__________________
2016 Halo FR-S, 2010 Tundra, 92 325i convertible, 80 Mazda 626, 62 Impala
MrVito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:01 AM   #61
Snoopyalien24
Mr. Sarcasm
 
Snoopyalien24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Drives: 2016 VW Jetta TSI Sport 5-Speed
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,729
Thanks: 1,275
Thanked 753 Times in 491 Posts
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
So... So it is possible









YAY
Snoopyalien24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:03 AM   #62
Snoopyalien24
Mr. Sarcasm
 
Snoopyalien24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Drives: 2016 VW Jetta TSI Sport 5-Speed
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,729
Thanks: 1,275
Thanked 753 Times in 491 Posts
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Oh oh, idea! What if you get a video, you know of the test drives, aaaaand time it till they reach 60 orrrrr GT5 anyone? They did get the gear ratios right.
Snoopyalien24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:24 AM   #63
duffman13
Auto-Xer
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2004 Acura RSX Type-S
Location: Behind me, behind you
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
All I know is I run 14.2-14.3 with a 200whp bolt-on/tune RSX-S. Subtract 150lbs, add the RWD launch advantage, adjust for my power advantage, and they should both be about 14.8 stock
duffman13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #64
Honesty
Heavy Metal Pool Party
 
Honesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: 911
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 73
Thanks: 3
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Are you also duffman13 on ClubRSX?
Honesty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:32 AM   #65
Dragonitti
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Drives: Boosted Scion tC, 350z
Location: TN
Posts: 1,779
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I haven't bought my DLC pack yet with the new test track in it. But you can do some drag test and tune, top speed or whatever on the new track. My friend said he ran a 15.1 in the GT86 on the Test track. A 6.603 in 0-60 time. Possibly slightly better IRL on a drag strip since there will be VHT laid down.
Dragonitti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:39 AM   #66
duffman13
Auto-Xer
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2004 Acura RSX Type-S
Location: Behind me, behind you
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honesty View Post
Are you also duffman13 on ClubRSX?
yup. I try to be duffman13 everywhere if someone else didn't snag it already
duffman13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:43 AM   #67
Honesty
Heavy Metal Pool Party
 
Honesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: 911
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 73
Thanks: 3
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thought so. I use the name Machina over there. Since I sold the DC5 for an M3 I mostly lurk for good deals in the for sale threads. And especially since we broke off of CSRX and formed autotalkcrew.com.

Are you getting a BRZ/FRS?
Honesty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 09:47 AM   #68
duffman13
Auto-Xer
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2004 Acura RSX Type-S
Location: Behind me, behind you
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honesty View Post
Thought so. I use the name Machina over there. Since I sold the DC5 for an M3 I mostly lurk for good deals in the for sale threads. And especially since we broke off of CSRX and formed autotalkcrew.com.

Are you getting a BRZ/FRS?
Not this year, but I plan on it. I have a personal rule of only 1 car loan at a time, and my wife's car isn't paid off for another 2.5 years. I still have a set of RS-3s on my track wheels to kill anyway that still have like 3/4 of their tread left.

I think I'll be better off waiting anyway, there could be updates, TRD/SPT parts, etc. that all the early adopter guys will have to wait for, and I'll get them right off the bat.

CRSX is basically dead now anyway. I'm hardly ever on it anymore, just mainly Auto Talk and the Auto-X and Track sections. Now it's just car blogs like TTAC and Jalopnik for me. Shit, I remeber I used to kill hours reading and posting on there.
duffman13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 10:01 AM   #69
Honesty
Heavy Metal Pool Party
 
Honesty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: 911
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 73
Thanks: 3
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Smart move. The more I read about the car the more convinced I am to pick one up.

I'm thinking it'll be an awesome auto-x car, which is the only kind of racing I do anymore.

Sucks CRSX is dead now. I was the same way - go to the Auto Talk section and hang there all day long. And The Lounge. But after Loza and the rest started really heavily moderating it, things got kind of lame and a bunch of guys left. Autotalkcrew.com formed essentially because we were sick of the moderators there hassling people for no good reason. Oh well, the glory days are over but it was fun while it lasted. Hell of an information database for the RSX though.

I'm really hoping ft86club turns out to be like that for this new car. We'll see where it goes.
Honesty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2012, 10:17 AM   #70
duffman13
Auto-Xer
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2004 Acura RSX Type-S
Location: Behind me, behind you
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honesty View Post
Smart move. The more I read about the car the more convinced I am to pick one up.

I'm thinking it'll be an awesome auto-x car, which is the only kind of racing I do anymore.

Sucks CRSX is dead now. I was the same way - go to the Auto Talk section and hang there all day long. And The Lounge. But after Loza and the rest started really heavily moderating it, things got kind of lame and a bunch of guys left. Autotalkcrew.com formed essentially because we were sick of the moderators there hassling people for no good reason. Oh well, the glory days are over but it was fun while it lasted. Hell of an information database for the RSX though.

I'm really hoping ft86club turns out to be like that for this new car. We'll see where it goes.
CRSX is still a wealth of knowledge, especially the DIY and Problems section, but I definitely hear you. I installed my header, motor mount inserts, and suspension based on the DIYs on the site without any problems, and they've helped me with other bits of maintenance.

It always happens though. I used to have a B5 A4, and the Audiworld B5 forum was awesome while the average value of the car was $10-15k. Once they started to get old enough that people were getting them for under $10k in high numbers, you start to get too many trashy people and punk kids in the forums. Now the only biggest conversations on CRSX are like the hellaflush ones, and that's stupid. On AW it was when everyone wanted to throw 20"s on their A4s that I knew it had gone downhill.

I think they need a central place for the chassis since they'll be so similar rather than breaking them apart into the Suby and Scion forums separately. This place seems good so far.

*Edit* 1 more thing. I'll prbably auto-X the car for a season intially to get a feel for the limits, but HPDEs are my new drug now. I quit autocross last year and only do those now, and it's so much better. If you have the ability to get to one and afford them, I highly reccommend it.
duffman13 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.