Is anyone else going to take the badges off their FRS?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by mattles

If you care to read a bit more, I also stated its probably not worth the trouble to swap them at all. Just grasping at straws, mate.

Read a bit more? "blacking out the emblem" so ppl can't see SCION badge? If you don't care about brand/label/etc, you would think same as me, "Don't give a damn which badge it has. For hell of it, I might have Daihatsu badge." but you do care about brand/label/etc. That's fine, just you gotta admit it. Hell, I'm currently driving Subie. There's nothing wrong w liking one brand more than other. Just, I was confused why buying FRS when you like Subie more, that's all

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by pcasso87

Thought about it just because i never thought i would end up owning a scion. LOL seriously i wont take it off since my car will be built for track racing and i dont think a toyota badge will give me handling or hp lol but if i was buying it as a street ride i would probably consider it.

Didn't you know, Toyota emblem give you 20hp more? Lmao

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Didn't you know, Toyota emblem give you 20hp more? Lmao

No, the Lexus "F" badge gives 20hp, duh!

You could be the first kid on the block with a Lexus FR-SF! Or Lexus FR-S! Or...

[koyv90]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I had a thread on this earlier.

A lot of folks hung up on the Scion brand. That really doesn't matter to me.

I just don't like the silver hanging out on the nose like that, but I think it leaves holes if you remove it.

I'm considering buying a second set of badging and trying to do a black/white theme on them like what was on the "Speed Racer" car in Long Beach, and black out the rest.

i really also like the black scion badge so i will get that.

[TuxedoCartman]

If I get the chance to do it easily, and reasonably cheaply, I would like to swap out as many Scion badges on mine as possible with Toyota equivalents. Here's my reasoning...

People like making statements on their cars. Bumper stickers for political candidates, Jesus fish, Darwin fish, etc... My changing of emblems isn't about trying to fool people into thinking I've got something I don't; it's a passive statement to the world my opinion about the Scion branding. Toyota is a fine motor company; they've got outstanding heritage in motor sports, and a long list of cars each with its own rabidly devoted fanbase. My god, how many of us know the engine code for a Supra, without ever even having owned one?

Scion, on the other hand, is a marketing ploy to youth. Not just any youth, but a marketing department's ideal of what youth these days are into. It is trying to be what's hip, what's happening, what's crickety-crunk for millennials. I, however, am not young. Hell, even when I was young, I thought the music was too loud, and those damn kids needed to get off my lawn.

When I heard that Toyota and Subaru were teaming up to build an affordable successor to the infamous hachi-roku, I wept with joy. I pictured lithe, nimble cars combining Toyota's sense of sensuous style with Subaru's un-PC approach to making cars go as fast as possible. I pictured a new era in touge racing, a revival of the glory days from the 90's when Japanese sports cars were at their prime.

Then when I heard Scion would be selling this car in America, my vision became clouded with 20"+ chrome rims, excessively slammed suspensions, lime green paint, and spokesmen proclaiming, "Yo dawg, check da new aighty-six out, a'ight?! It's got the drifts, yo!" For better or worse, that's what I associate with the Scion brand in America.

By changing badges out for Toyota ones, I'm making a simple, personal statement that even as an adult, I can appreciate an affordable, simple performance, RWD sports car, without having to be talked down to like a punk kid who wants to be an extra in the next Fast and the Furious. That as a consumer I'd rather be associated with Supras and MR2's and Corolla GT-S's, than TC's and XB's with neon-light kits.

That's just my take on it.

[Dark]

Oh god. I don't really care about who do what. Trust me, do what you like when you get your car. You paid for it, you should do what make you happy, not what people tell you should do. Just don't Ferrari badge your BRZ/FR-S. You get my point.

[robo_robb]

Originally Posted by Marloon

1) too bad we don't get fog lamps

2) too bad we dont get the headlamps from toyota

3) I would probably plastidip them to black.

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relevant because i dont see how rebadging the car to toyota makes it "JDM". it makes you play pretend thats all.

The Scion FR-S is based on the Toyota 86 "G" spec. Same headlights and no Fogs. You are thinking of the "Limited" or "GT" trim level, which have HID's and fog lights. The FR-S is based on a different trim. The halogen headlights on the Scion are also found on the Toyota.



Anyways, I'm rebadging mine a Toyota because I've always considered this car as such and I feel as though the creation of the Scion "brand" was not needed. Brand engineering is an insult to any consumer who knows better.

[Scooby]

Originally Posted by robo_robb

Brand engineering is an insult to any consumer who knows better.

QFT

[mattles]

^^ Ive talked with a bunch of non-car people and they had NO CLUE that the Scion FR-S was a subaru/toyota car. They just assumed Scion is making one the coolest new cars out this year. Seems like the branding and advertising has worked on a percentage of the population. Its gonna be lolz when I show them the words SUBARU and TOYOTA on the intake manifold, heh.

[quik1987]

Originally Posted by Marloon

because once you switch it up, people will know that its still a scion since you don't have the look of the gt86 right.

But you know not all Toyota 86 have fogs and LED DRLs right?


not to mention that fogs and the gt86 headlights will be available eventually, whether through dealer accessories or import.

It's not about trying to fool people, it's about each individual making it what they want.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by quik1987

I like how the JDM cars have only the Toyota emblem on the rear, so I will be removing the FR-S badges, then replacing the Scion emblem when I can get my hands on Toyota ones.

This topic has been mentioned a lot but since we've had a lot of new members what can you do.

I plan to do the same thing and the first mods will be making it similar to the Japanese and European GT86. Swap the both front and rear emblems with Toyota, remove the FR-S emblem, install the 86 steering wheel, fog lights and front marker light.

[robo_robb]

Originally Posted by quik1987

But you know not all Toyota 86 have fogs and LED DRLs right?


not to mention that fogs and the gt86 headlights will be available eventually, whether through dealer accessories or import.

It's not about trying to fool people, it's about each individual making it what they want.

Thanks Quik.

Just to reiterate your point for those that think the FR-S is some cheapified version of the 86 made specifically for America: No, the Scion version is based on a mid-range (G spec) Toyota 86. Same HVAC controls, Halogen headlights, and no fogs.

[dori.]

Nothing wrong with changing the badges/trim, especially if you were one of the people like me, that wanted the same Toyota 86 that Japan got.

I was going to do it when I was considering the FR-S.

[Carson Toyota]

We already have at least 10 sets of the Toyota front and rear emblems coming in a few weeks. Ill post the thread in the vendors section as soon as they arrive.

Any other emblems you guys are looking for that I should be on the lookout for?