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Old 12-03-2011, 03:18 AM   #15
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Ah I see. I was just curious cause I just looked at this thread:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2596

and just noticed the dude sitting there with the keys in the car. Thought it was the Subaru one he was driving but I noticed the camo stuff on the side mirrors. But yeah... it does look cheap lol.
That is the Subaru but the lower spec. Only the higher spec Subaru has the push to start system.
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That is the Subaru but the lower spec. Only the higher spec Subaru has the push to start system.
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noooo Consarn it!

Sigh lol. Well ... well... ... whatever price is lower then.
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Is this poor writing or am I missing something?

I think poor writing if not the different spring rates in BRZ he's mentioning here!

I am also surprised with the brakes in the premium!!
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Can somebody explain brake theory to me. Does a one inch difference in brake size really make that much of a difference where its worth spending more money for the more expensive model? I can care less about the vents. Solid brakes work fine. But 16 inch opposed to 15 inch in the front. How significant is the difference?
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The fronts will NOT be solid. As for brake differences this is the first time we have heard of front brake differences (and IMO it's incorrect) so most likely both versions will have the same. Fr-s will also be the same. You'd care about the vents when your brakes overheat though
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Most important aspect of that article where the colors. I'm sad if the BRZ doesn't come in orange, because the FR-S interior looks crappy, and I want an orange car.
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Most important aspect of that article where the colors. I'm sad if the BRZ doesn't come in orange, because the FR-S interior looks crappy, and I want an orange car.
You could get white then get it painted orange?
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You could get white then get it painted orange?
Paint jobs are expensive dude.

I guess it depends now on what options you can get on a scion for me. If I can get an orange one with upgraded interior, I might go that route.

I might just have to break down and buy a subie and give up on the little orange sports car dream.
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Was surprised indeed by this:
Step up from base Premium spec to Limited, and you get leather/Alcantara seats and surfaces, 17-inch wheels with summer tires (instead of 16s with all-seasons), vented 16-inch disc brakes up front, and vented 15-inchs at the rear (as opposed to solid 15-inch discs all around).


Solid all around really must be a mistake, i think he means solids in the back and vented in the front.
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Paint jobs are expensive dude.

I guess it depends now on what options you can get on a scion for me. If I can get an orange one with upgraded interior, I might go that route.

I might just have to break down and buy a subie and give up on the little orange sports car dream.
Sure paint jobs cost $$$. You have a few options: 1) Get Scion in orange and suck up and deal with interior 2) Get Subaru and get it painted. 3) Just drop idea of orange and get the Subaru for the interior. Don't see many other options.
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The fronts will NOT be solid. As for brake differences this is the first time we have heard of front brake differences (and IMO it's incorrect) so most likely both versions will have the same. Fr-s will also be the same. You'd care about the vents when your brakes overheat though

Yes the brakes info is clearly wrong or mistyped. at the very the frontswill be vented. I'm already thinking that all 3 variants of the ft 86 will have the same brakes front and rear.
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Hrm. The ONLY thing from the limited i would want are the wheel/tire combo. All of my tires are either summer or winter. I refuse to compromise either environment with a half assed blend.

That being said, the black/chrome wheels that keep showing up ard hideous, and the summer tire is probably inferior. Just like what Mazda did with the OEM summers on the RX-8 (terrible wet traction, poor dry, and no life to them). So maybe the 16in option is better, if i'm replacing both wheels and tires anyway. Doubt i would drive it in the winter (i know, horrors), since i already have my RX-8 treated and shoed for it (and has seen 6 of them flawlessly).
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Can somebody explain brake theory to me. Does a one inch difference in brake size really make that much of a difference where its worth spending more money for the more expensive model? I can care less about the vents. Solid brakes work fine. But 16 inch opposed to 15 inch in the front. How significant is the difference?
People pay a LOT of money for 1 inch in brake rotor. However, there is a much bigger issue with this brake information.

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The fronts will NOT be solid. As for brake differences this is the first time we have heard of front brake differences (and IMO it's incorrect) so most likely both versions will have the same. Fr-s will also be the same. You'd care about the vents when your brakes overheat though
Agreed. There is no way the fronts will be solid. This car is meant to do something other than get the kids to school and mom to the store. I wouldn't be surprised to see a TRD BBK option like what is offered on the tC. I'd also be pleased to see such an option. The Lexus F-Sport brakes, albeit nice and pretty, would be overkill for this car. There is absolutely no need for big heavy 6-piston calipers on a car this small.

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Was surprised indeed by this:
Step up from base Premium spec to Limited, and you get leather/Alcantara seats and surfaces, 17-inch wheels with summer tires (instead of 16s with all-seasons), vented 16-inch disc brakes up front, and vented 15-inchs at the rear (as opposed to solid 15-inch discs all around).


Solid all around really must be a mistake, i think he means solids in the back and vented in the front.
There is a bigger issue than solid vs. vented here.

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Yes the brakes info is clearly wrong or mistyped. at the very the frontswill be vented. I'm already thinking that all 3 variants of the ft 86 will have the same brakes front and rear.
Clearly.

There is absolutely NO way that this car is coming with 16" rotors in the front and 15" rotors in the back. Let me show you what 15.5" rotors front and 15" rotors rear look like. Those are 19s in the front, btw.



The fronts are the same brakes Brembo sells to Ferrari for the front of the FXX and the rears are Ferrari Enzo fronts. The smallest wheel you can fit around them is a 19 unless you go to a custom 3 piece wheel or a very specific 1 piece CCW, made for the application.
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Lsx:often in Japan brake rotors are sized as the smallest wheel that can be used to clear the rotor and caliper and I suspect that was lost in translation by motor trend.
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