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Old 01-09-2019, 11:59 AM   #29
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Ya, I hear that.

I go back and fourth about having the work done or not.
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OK, I have a plan -

I'll invite you and @Ultramaroon up for the weekend. I'll cut a deal with Toyota to have them give me a set of parts needed for the recall work.

I'll arrange for an unlimited bucket of fried chicken to be delivered.

I'll also arrange for a delivery of assorted craft beer to be delivered.

I'll sit in the recliner and read the detailed instructions as you two do the work. I'll also act as QA person.

mrs humfrz will be on hand to go to the airport to pick up ol @Tcoat if he would like to join us for this party.

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OK, I have a plan -

I'll invite you and @Ultramaroon up for the weekend. I'll cut a deal with Toyota to have them give me a set of parts needed for the recall work.

I'll arrange for an unlimited bucket of fried chicken to be delivered.

I'll also arrange for a delivery of assorted craft beer to be delivered.

I'll sit in the recliner and read the detailed instructions as you two do the work. I'll also act as QA person.

mrs humfrz will be on hand to go to the airport to pick up ol @Tcoat if he would like to join us for this party.

Fun will be had by all -


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Old 01-09-2019, 01:03 PM   #32
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Well, we do need a photographer, so we can video tape the process. So, if you have the proper equipment, come on up -

Do you like your chicken regular or extra crispy? Any preference for a craft beer?





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Well, we do need a photographer, so we can video tape the process. So, if you have the proper equipment, come on up -

Do you like your chicken regular or extra crispy? Any preference for a craft beer?





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Nice. DIY for everyone.

Extra crispy for me. And I'll bring you guys some of the good stuff from CA to share
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:05 PM   #34
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Got my notice in the mail yesterday... will be taking mine in since it has had valve cover leak issues from day one, has never been trouble free (but has been pretty reliable), and I want to sell my FR-S ASAP. Have less than 60K miles on mine and clutch throwout bearing is about to bite it. Just ordered an Exedy Stage 1 clutch kit.... once comes in will schedule mine for the recall work.

Wish we could take it to a Subaru dealership for the work instead though...

Is the Toyota coolant the EXACT same thing as the specialized SUBARU coolant? I ask because the Subaru coolant is all I've ever used in mine, as my brother use to have a 2.5RS Impreza and gave me his stockpile after it was totaled in a flood. 2.2L Legacy, 2.5L Impreza, 2.0L FR-S.... think I've had my fill of boxer engines for the rest of my life. They are not bad, just quirky and more difficult to do routine maintenance or fix leaks.
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Or, get dinged on trade in because the recalled work hadn't been done -

Or, give the car to my oldest granddaughter, knowing that the recall work hadn't been done -
On these two, you could always have it done right before selling/giving. There is no time limit on the recall, technically you could have it done 20 years from now. For course, by then you'd be risking having it done by a robot that hadn't been programmed to do it.

I think I hit the sweet spot on mine. When I took it into the shop yesterday the techs at the dealership had already done a handful (one they finished just as I was bringing my car in as mentioned above). So, now they have experience but haven't had enough time to forget what they've done.

Also, as mentioned, I'm not sure I'd do it yet if I only had 23,000miles on mine either. I'd probably wait.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:12 PM   #36
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I am seriously fucking livid about the California "you can't register it unless you have it done" bullshit.

Makes no fucking sense, let me sign a release form that says if the engine pops it's my responsibility because I didn't get the recall work performed.

I registered the car this year, why can't I register it next year? Nothing will have changed if I don't get the ridiculous valve spring recall work performed.
Move.

It's an engine problem. It might make the engine run less efficiently and emit 7 more carbon molecules into the atmosphere. Therefore it must be fixed, because environmentalism is a higher priority than your individual rights. It makes perfect sense in the context of your idiotic emissions regime.

The most logical choice for me when I graduated film school would have been to move to California. I couldn't bring myself to do it. I grew up under a government of religious nutjobs in Alabama. The last thing I wanted to do was trade the religion of Roy Moore for the even more rabid and irrational religion of Governor Moonbeam.

Y'all voted for it. If that's what you want, fine. What infuriates me is that California sends lobbyists out to other states to try to convince them to adopt CARB. They made owning a car more expensive for California residents, so rather than reduce their costs, they want other states to raise the cost for their own residents so that it's more "fair."

Other states should pass laws making it legally fair game to shoot California's lobbyists on sight. Swearing in a new legislature should mark the beginning of "California lobbyist season" for hunters.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:13 PM   #37
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:19 PM   #38
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On these two, you could always have it done right before selling/giving. There is no time limit on the recall, technically you could have it done 20 years from now. For course, by then you'd be risking having it done by a robot that hadn't been programmed to do it.

I think I hit the sweet spot on mine. When I took it into the shop yesterday the techs at the dealership had already done a handful (one they finished just as I was bringing my car in as mentioned above). So, now they have experience but haven't had enough time to forget what they've done.

Also, as mentioned, I'm not sure I'd do it yet if I only had 23,000miles on mine either. I'd probably wait.
I agree totally. Mine is a higher mileage car and I will be getting it done once it comes out of storage. Lower mileage folks, I would wait.
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If it does, here's where something will go sideways. It's all in the details:
  • Not cleaning enough around electrical or fluid connections before cracking them.
  • Buggering the mating surfaces of covers when separating them.
  • Dropping ANYTHING into an oil gallery while it's apart.
  • Not cleaning the mating surfaces well enough before applying new sealant. Proper degreasing is critical.
  • Busting an electrical connector or bending a pin when reassembling.
  • Over-tightening the most vulnerable 6 or 8 millimeter fasteners because "who uses a torque wrench on those?"
  • Rushing or ignoring the evacuation step before charging the AC. This happens all... the... time.
The actual spring replacement, valve train clocking, etc... is not rocket science. What really bugs me is that book time is based on servicing a clean system. Most techs gloss over the details for the sake of expediency. I've personally seen and railed against it throughout my professional life.


Oh, and everybody fucks up from time to time. Rare and appreciated is the guy that isn't afraid to admit it.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:54 PM   #40
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My car runs awesome and leaks nothing. Now because CA says I can't renew my reg until Toyota gets their greasy mitts all over my engine. Makes no sense. If it ain't broke why you trying to fix it Toyota?

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Nice. DIY for everyone.

Extra crispy for me. And I'll bring you guys some of the good stuff from CA to share
Good -

How about stopping in at Nena's (off of Weber) and pick up an assortment of Mexican meals. Just ask Maria to put together and box up a selection. She k-n-o-w-s what I like -


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How about stopping in at Nena's (off of Weber) and pick up an assortment of Mexican meals. Just ask Maria to put together and box up a selection. She k-n-o-w-s what I like -


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