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Old 12-05-2017, 08:12 AM   #15
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Yeah, i get it, but better to spend the money now and do it right imo, especially on the suspension on this particular car.

Again, just my 2 cents. I've never lowered one of these cars but i've lowered Hondas and Mercedes in the past (never a lot, 1-2 inches), they always have that underdamped, slightly bouncy feel right afterwards and its only downhill from there. I'd end up doing the work again later replacing the struts with a shorter stroke strut/shock. If the stock struts on the FT86 are that much stronger than other cars go ahead and tell me im talking out my ass, i wont get offended
You are talking out of your ass (you said it was OK). Spring with the proper rates for the stock struts do not show those symptoms on these cars. The trick is to buys something designed specifically for the car though. If you cheap out then you may have issues. Going with a cheap set of coil overs will end up being a bigger problem than lowering springs on these cars would ever be.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:07 AM   #16
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If just looking for a simple drop then some lowering spring are probably a more cost effective purchase than cheap coil overs. I have the RSR Superdown springs and am very happy with them. At under $300 they are a much better bet than coilovers.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/rs-r...l#.WiXpc0qnGUk
Interesting couple of question:
  1. How long did you drive the car before fitting the springs.
  2. How much did it lower your car.
  3. How do you feel it affected the DD riding of the car as opposed to stock spring.

I know that ride quality is somewhat subjective and after a while of driving in a lowered car you adapt. However based on your posts and annual mileage I would suspect we have the same preferences when it comes to lowering the vehicle.

I like the slightly lower look but prefer the stock spring rates etc for normal commute and DD driving . Have no intention of racing the car, might pop into a couple of auto cross events but that would be no more than a couple of times. (I'm too old to care that some millennial+ is faster round a track)
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Interesting couple of question:
  1. How long did you drive the car before fitting the springs.
  2. How much did it lower your car.
  3. How do you feel it affected the DD riding of the car as opposed to stock spring.

I know that ride quality is somewhat subjective and after a while of driving in a lowered car you adapt. However based on your posts and annual mileage I would suspect we have the same preferences when it comes to lowering the vehicle.

I like the slightly lower look but prefer the stock spring rates etc for normal commute and DD driving . Have no intention of racing the car, might pop into a couple of auto cross events but that would be no more than a couple of times. (I'm too old to care that some millennial+ is faster round a track)
Here you go. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73739


I will add that after riding around in Ultra's car for several days mine has an ever so slightly rougher ride. Not much but it is there.
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I've been a fan of RS*R in the past but you don't hear much about them with this platform.

I just had a dig and it looks like they do different rates for each model?
The spring rates F3.2kg/R4.5kg for the 86 and F3.2kg/R3.9kg for the BRZ.

Very interesting.
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Ok, I think my descion is going with the SCION FR-S SUPERDOWN SUS SPRINGS 2013-2016. I have one more question, what are the pros and cons of having your suspension at a different height from the rear and front, because this suspension allows you to do so. http://www.rs-r.com/product/scion-fr...-springs-2013/
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Ok, I think my descion is going with the SCION FR-S SUPERDOWN SUS SPRINGS 2013-2016. I have one more question, what are the pros and cons of having your suspension at a different height from the rear and front, because this suspension allows you to do so. http://www.rs-r.com/product/scion-fr...-springs-2013/
It is a very small difference. Just balances it out visually.
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What's wrong with the suspension that you have now?
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Ok, I think my descion is going with the SCION FR-S SUPERDOWN SUS SPRINGS 2013-2016. I have one more question, what are the pros and cons of having your suspension at a different height from the rear and front, because this suspension allows you to do so. http://www.rs-r.com/product/scion-fr...-springs-2013/
Weight balance will shift a bit, based on the different heights. Aero balance as well, but I doubt you will ever notice it.
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How many miles on your OEM shocks?

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Old 12-05-2017, 01:36 PM   #24
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Also do you really really absolutely must have that "super"down of more then inch drop? Why not a bit more reasonable drop w/o altering suspension geometry that much?
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Also do you really really absolutely must have that "super"down of more then inch drop? Why not a bit more reasonable drop w/o altering suspension geometry that much?
The .4 and .2 extra drop really don’t change anything much. This is especially true for a street driven car where you are not trying to tune suspension to lose a hundredth of a second on your lap time. I bet 99.999% of the drivers on the road will not ever be able to tell the difference.
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I've been a fan of RS*R in the past but you don't hear much about them with this platform.

I just had a dig and it looks like they do different rates for each model?
The spring rates F3.2kg/R4.5kg for the 86 and F3.2kg/R3.9kg for the BRZ.

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How many miles on your OEM shocks?

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Hey Racecomp,

Which of these look better to you?
It looks like they are trying to maintain the characteristics of the stock cars?

86 version
Front - 3.2kg
Rear - 4.5kg

BRZ version
Front - 3.2kg
Rear - 3.9kg
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RCE Yellows, crash/camber bolts, and a good alignment.
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Tein Flex Z would be a solid contender. Easy to install and offers a good range of adjustability. The benefit of going with a good coilover is that they have matched the damping and springs to provide a good quality ride. Just adding lowering springs can make the car ride and handle like junk
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