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churchx · 09-14-2015, 11:54 PM

CSG Mike: i plan to get this header (when i'll get funds). But there is problem though - as there is no known high competency ecu tuning shop locally, i'm tied to try tune myself with OFT or remote tune from some tuning shop. PTuning didn't release OFT tune at the end, but IIRC they provide custom cams timing (they also were mentioned that there was very specific tuning needed unlike for other headers) for their header upon request to those that bought their header. I'd love to go OFT route that i could tinker with myself, but header is a bit too expensive to miss getting all it's power from, hence Delicious remote tune probably will be safer bet. Seeing Wayno's comments about remote tuning i start doubting if remote tune by eg. Shiv will be as effective unless he had some customer with this header previously. Don't know of any other shop that does remote OFT tuning, most shops are Ecutek after all.

Wayno · 09-15-2015, 01:01 AM

Road trip!

twag4 · 09-15-2015, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Virtually every Ace header customer is upgrading from another aftermarket header. In fact, I think it's 100% of the customers, for the Type A. Quite frankly, this is the wrong header for penny pinchers; if you want the best of the best, then this is the header for you.

I ordered from CSG in July, but haven't gotten mine yet. I am waiting patiently. But, I have been waiting on this header since I saw the very first Ace post over a year ago when they were showing a picture of a one-off header they made. It was spectacularly pretty, and when I saw the type A design, plus the performance, I was sold. I have owned many headers on other cars, but I am a buy once/cry once kind of guy. This is my first and hopefully last header for this car. I don't want to buy something then wish I wouldn't have skimped. Plus, the price includes an overpipe, so that makes it competitive with the nameless and JDL type el headers if you are doing full exhaust. Anyway, not quite 100% of buyers are coming from something else. By the way, when is my anticipated ship date for a type a/350 ordered in late July?

*edit* I knew when I ordered these the wait was going to be substantial, so please don't read that as a complaint. I patiently wait. Counterspace garage is a fantastic company and was up front about the wait. I ordered other stuff from them too that I have already received, and their customer service is top notch!

JimmyMac · 09-15-2015, 01:10 AM

I ordered mine in June and it'll be here Wednesday.

Hawk77FT · 09-15-2015, 01:56 AM

Aaaand these are them installed! The easiest overpipe I have ever fitted!

ort895 · 09-15-2015, 10:05 AM

Anybody get theirs wrapped?
still trying to decide (when i get these) if i want them wrapped

twag4 · 09-15-2015, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMac

I ordered mine in June and it'll be here Wednesday.

Great news! That may be a quicker turn around time than I expected. I was told at the time of the order what the wait would be, so no big deal. @CounterSpace Garage is an excellent vendor with great customer service. I ordered on the internet over a weekend, and they contacted me over that same weekend to make sure I was aware of the wait before finishing the order or taking money. Great vendor!

Kotu100 · 09-15-2015, 04:16 PM

I love my Ace header. Its the type B with the 250 over pipe. Have had it on the car for 2 weeks now and i'm absolutely in love with it.
With the OFT stage 2 ots tune there is absolutely zero torque dip now.
The sound is amazing IMO, i love the tone the equal length puts out coupled with my q300. Have gotten a lot of compliments on it already. My girl thinks it sounds almost like a streetbike (in a good way.)

I have some testing to do, numbers to get, and pictures and video to take before i put up my full review.
I would not hesitate to buy another one.

tracerit · 09-15-2015, 04:22 PM

What OFT tune are you using with the headeR? Would you say the noise is louder compared to the stock header?

Porcupint · 09-15-2015, 04:23 PM

Has anyone posted an audio clip other than that one on the track?

Kotu100 · 09-15-2015, 04:30 PM

here you go guys, preliminary sound clip. Limiter is at 5500rpm.
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBC4psHI_rs"]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KBC4psHI_rs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/ame]

OkieSnuffBox · 09-15-2015, 09:02 PM

Can't wait for @Delicious Tuning to have an ACE specific tune....

olsonpg · 09-15-2015, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotu100

here you go guys, preliminary sound clip. Limiter is at 5500rpm.

WOW ~! Im surprised how well it sounds with the q300. It screams beautifully. I might have to grab a q300. Are you very happy with the sound?

Kotu100 · 09-16-2015, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olsonpg

WOW ~! Im surprised how well it sounds with the q300. It screams beautifully. I might have to grab a q300. Are you very happy with the sound?

Extremely happy with the sound. Its not very quiet at WOT, but extremely tame on the highway.

09-15-2015, 01:01 AM	#268
Wayno Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Location: Australia Posts: 1,129 Thanks: 453 Thanked 895 Times in 424 Posts Mentioned: 211 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Road trip! __________________ rom downloads, information and examples Toyota 86 GTS OFT - Guide To Dialling In OTS Base Tune OFT - Example Alternate Maps for AT, 98RON, E85, MAF Scales

09-15-2015, 01:56 AM	#271
Hawk77FT Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: GTS 86 Location: Australia Posts: 989 Thanks: 873 Thanked 475 Times in 272 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Aaaand these are them installed! The easiest overpipe I have ever fitted! Attached Images

09-15-2015, 10:05 AM	#272
ort895 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: North Carolina Posts: 695 Thanks: 195 Thanked 139 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anybody get theirs wrapped? still trying to decide (when i get these) if i want them wrapped __________________ Yeah its an auto, deal with it.

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09-14-2015, 11:54 PM	#267
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,085 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	CSG Mike: i plan to get this header (when i'll get funds). But there is problem though - as there is no known high competency ecu tuning shop locally, i'm tied to try tune myself with OFT or remote tune from some tuning shop. PTuning didn't release OFT tune at the end, but IIRC they provide custom cams timing (they also were mentioned that there was very specific tuning needed unlike for other headers) for their header upon request to those that bought their header. I'd love to go OFT route that i could tinker with myself, but header is a bit too expensive to miss getting all it's power from, hence Delicious remote tune probably will be safer bet. Seeing Wayno's comments about remote tuning i start doubting if remote tune by eg. Shiv will be as effective unless he had some customer with this header previously. Don't know of any other shop that does remote OFT tuning, most shops are Ecutek after all.

09-15-2015, 01:10 AM	#270
JimmyMac Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2016 Miata Club Location: NC Posts: 785 Thanks: 183 Thanked 258 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I ordered mine in June and it'll be here Wednesday.

09-15-2015, 04:16 PM	#274
Kotu100 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: Supra, 2014 BRZ Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 327 Thanks: 241 Thanked 192 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love my Ace header. Its the type B with the 250 over pipe. Have had it on the car for 2 weeks now and i'm absolutely in love with it. With the OFT stage 2 ots tune there is absolutely zero torque dip now. The sound is amazing IMO, i love the tone the equal length puts out coupled with my q300. Have gotten a lot of compliments on it already. My girl thinks it sounds almost like a streetbike (in a good way.) I have some testing to do, numbers to get, and pictures and video to take before i put up my full review. I would not hesitate to buy another one.

09-15-2015, 04:22 PM	#275
tracerit Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '13 SSM BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 1,067 Thanks: 593 Thanked 198 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What OFT tune are you using with the headeR? Would you say the noise is louder compared to the stock header?

09-15-2015, 04:23 PM	#276
Porcupint Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 13 GBS BRZ Location: TX Posts: 446 Thanks: 447 Thanked 233 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Has anyone posted an audio clip other than that one on the track?

09-15-2015, 04:30 PM	#277
Kotu100 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: Supra, 2014 BRZ Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 327 Thanks: 241 Thanked 192 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	here you go guys, preliminary sound clip. Limiter is at 5500rpm. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBC4psHI_rs"]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KBC4psHI_rs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/ame]

09-15-2015, 09:02 PM	#278
OkieSnuffBox Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: '23 BRZ Limited Location: OKC, OK Posts: 1,986 Thanks: 660 Thanked 1,229 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Can't wait for @Delicious Tuning to have an ACE specific tune....

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