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The last I checked there were over 100 failure reports on this forum and yes there have been people that joined just to report the failure. I doubt anyone joins just to report a success though. |
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01-24-2020, 04:34 PM | #1416 | |
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Put about ~4000 miles on refurbished shortblock, 6 months after the rebuild from dealer everything is good. Engine oil looks really clean, engine sounds great and revs freely, no drips or leaks, HPFP is as loud as ever. Only complaint is that they broke the rubber access cover for the hole to access the flywheel. They used a large piece of it and used a black putty to keep it in place instead of replacing the $10 part. oh well. Going to do an oil change in about 1000 miles and send a sample to blackstone to check on it. |
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Yes, with what we know the odds of failure from the repair are worse than the odds of failure from the springs.
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Or do we? By replacing the springs we now no longer know how many would ultimately fail if the recall didn't happen. It is possible that the longer they were used metal fatigue would have come into play, or cracks would develop along the "bad parts".
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How many other people had an engine failure after the recall where the dealer covered the repair without question. They would all be happy owners and this forum would consider them part of the success numbers since they did not report their issue. I would consider that a fail with a happy ending. But definitely not a success. It would be nice if those numbers could be included in the overall failure rate for the recall. But we will never know - Only way to know is find out how many short blocks have been shipped to dealers. I doubt a block is a common item used in everyday repairs. I would then say, every short block ordered and delivered after a recall could be considered a failure. (I'd also include how many used engines have shipped from auto wreckers in that number) |
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Oh that is true too. The data is totally screwed at this point.
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% of the people that had failures the dealer covered it. There are of course the ones that came on, said they had a failure and the dealer was looking into it and then never updated as to what happened. We can probably assume that they got covered. Not all the dealers are sacks of crap! We have no better way to determine short-blocks shipped than we do anything else. Also would not tell us how many failures were covered by the honest dealers.
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Do we have database of members who have had valve springs failures?
I don’t have many kms/miles on my 2013, but have it tuned to 400whp on E73 turbo’d, so still hesitant to do the recall.
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Which completely and totally sucks in all ways but is not a reason to invent some hidden agenda on the part of Subaru.
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Was it about seven years? A lot of cars were built in that period of time! |
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I think it's a scare tactic on the part of Toyota and Subaru. First, they come up with the actual cost of this recall. Then they look at their budget and it's only enough to cover 1/3 of the repairs. So how do they lower cost? By scaring off ppl to not do the recall. It makes sense to me.....
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It would take at least a couple of years for there to be enough spring failures to trigger an investigation. The investigation into the problem and determining what was the issue would take several months to a year. They would then need to inform various applicable agencies that they were performing a voluntary recall. Those agencies would then take time to process and release it. The recall was released on November 1 2018. This is in no way abnormal or dragged out for such a thing. The Takata airbag recalls are still going on for cars from as far back as 2003. The recall is covered under warranty even when the standard and drive train ones are up so there was zero incentive to delay it in any way. There is no indication that they continued to use the bad spring beyond the one batch made so it doesn't matter how many cars they made after the issue was found.
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The airbag recalls here are being recalled again because the replacement airbags are also faulty. Maybe the valve spring recalls should be recalled again to check everything that causes the recall failures. |
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