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Old 01-11-2019, 05:57 PM   #29
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:17 PM   #30
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Thanks for all your help in narrowing down all the suspension kits that exist out there for the FRS. Much appreciate, can't wait to upvote your comment after i hit submit here
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Lmao you guys are hilarious. It wasn’t THAT easy, he put one hand under the wheel and with his shoulder pushed up, said there was lots of play on he springs
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:22 PM   #32
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said there was lots of play on he springs
That makes zero sense to anyone who knows how this suspension goes together and has used a spring built in the last 20 years for a significant amount of time.

I mean I've driven cars older than me with 200k miles (~320k km) and the springs are fine.
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That makes zero sense to anyone who knows how this suspension goes together and has used a spring built in the last 20 years for a significant amount of time.

I mean I've driven cars older than me with 200k miles (~320k km) and the springs are fine.
Why would I lie?

He pushed the wheel up easily, he said this means my shocks are wearing out / going out...I can’t remember exact words. But he’s a trustworthy guy, he said I can probably keep going on them if I want but the signs are there.

Not to mention, I said myself..the ride in the car is not the same as it was years ago. Pot holes are more clunky, road bumps are more intense.. even to someone who knows nothing about suspensions I can tell the suspension is wearing out.

If it’s not the shocks, then what is it?
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:56 PM   #34
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If it’s not the shocks, then what is it?
If anything it's the dampers, not the springs. Others here are correct in advising you to check all articulating joints.
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Why would I lie?

If it’s not the shocks, then what is it?
I'm not suggesting you're lying, your mileage and feelings about ride quality are logical given the mileage of your car and replacing dampers is a reasonable path to follow, I say go for it.

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thanks guys.. i appreciate all the replies

car is reliable and the community for it is rock solid too!

looking forward to buying the 17' OE set from StraightOuttaCanada and replacing the other components as reccomended
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So I'll throw my $0.02 in here...I'd say that after 200k miles of northern driving, your shocks easily could stand being replaced. However, shocks have nothing to do with the type of movement described. My guess would be worn out upper strut bushings. The movement your mechanic produced wasn't from compressing the springs at all, but rather, slop in the toasted bushings. Replacing your current setup with takeoffs from another car will probably include the good upper bushing, so you're covering all bases with this approach..
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thanks guys.. i appreciate all the replies

car is reliable and the community for it is rock solid too!

looking forward to buying the 17' OE set from StraightOuttaCanada and replacing the other components as reccomended
Careful @StraightOuttaCanadaEh 's car is red, so you know already he's a menace. He's also taller than me, so be careful of that too.
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Careful @StraightOuttaCanadaEh 's car is red, so you know already he's a menace. He's also taller than me, so be careful of that too.
i already tried to peddle him my red fender garnish things lol
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So I'll throw my $0.02 in here...I'd say that after 200k miles of northern driving, your shocks easily could stand being replaced. However, shocks have nothing to do with the type of movement described. My guess would be worn out upper strut bushings. The movement your mechanic produced wasn't from compressing the springs at all, but rather, slop in the toasted bushings. Replacing your current setup with takeoffs from another car will probably include the good upper bushing, so you're covering all bases with this approach..

Movement at the wheel still needs to compress the spring, unless the upper mount is unbolted from the body at the top. You'll get lateral play if the bearing is bad, but not enough vertical play to see the wheel being lifted up.
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