Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread - Page 97 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

FT_Monk · 08-14-2013, 10:33 PM

Was the current draw actually measured or based on the ESC advertised rating?

Larkin · 08-15-2013, 11:33 AM

I wonder how well this system would work with E85. With the right map running E85 and an electrocharger, or whatever the heck you call these things, could provide some very strong gains.

Toma · 08-15-2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larkin

I wonder how well this system would work with E85. With the right map running E85 and an electrocharger, or whatever the heck you call these things, could provide some very strong gains.

That it would. But we don't have E85.

fenton · 08-15-2013, 12:29 PM

Back from vacation.... ready to try some new stuff and maybe get it back on the dyno when you guys are.

mid_life_crisis · 08-15-2013, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenton

Back from vacation.... ready to try some new stuff and maybe get it back on the dyno when you guys are.

Finally, the dyno I've been begging for.

neutron256 · 08-15-2013, 12:42 PM

@Robftss since it seems like a lot of us have different ideas about how to improve/modify this have you considered selling a 'Tuner' kit that just had the compressor and motor at a discounted price?

Just a thought.

Wonderbar · 08-15-2013, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larkin

I wonder how well this system would work with E85. With the right map running E85 and an electrocharger, or whatever the heck you call these things, could provide some very strong gains.

NA cars hit over 200whp on e85, I'd say you could expect the same 20-30whp more.

fenton · 08-16-2013, 04:02 PM

Update

Got the new recharger system installed and have to say it makes a dramatic difference in recharge time. Doing some test runs from 0 - 200 km/h resulted in recharge to 28v in about 10 seconds.... essentially the time it took me to slow back down to 80km/hr.

You can just drive and drive it and the second you let off it the recharge begins to sore immediately. I have stated many times that i didnt have a problem with the recharge rate on the street but this will really help out the guys that will be trying this on autocross and on the road course.

The one time i DID notice the recharge was with the BMW races. We did about 15 pulls in different gears most times back to back. After about 15 minutes of abuse it was taking longer than it did on the street.

This system also has the added benefit of getting the rechargers and batteries warmed up quicker which help you get to optimal temps for dumping the most juice to the charger.

Rob has also fitted a larger battery tray and with it we are able to run essentially the stock battery size with the dump batteries on the side. This will help me with starting in the winter. Total weight increase over stock with current battery setup is 9 lbs.

Here is a pick of the new layout.

fenton · 08-16-2013, 04:07 PM

Added Bu-Tangs race with the S2000 to Post 5 with other comparison videos'

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wau1k13Gwc"]stock S2000 (AP1) vs FRS Boost(Electric Supercharger) Run 2 Dualview - YouTube[/ame]

fenton · 08-16-2013, 04:33 PM

Some pictures the other day when butang and I were both getting some test stuff at Robs shop.

Two electric supercharged unicorns in such close proximity is a rare occasion. Lol.

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Gary in NJ · 08-16-2013, 04:54 PM

Want...now....right now.

asher187 · 08-16-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary in NJ

Want...now....right now.

Ditto, ready to reserve mines today:-D

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Thatruth2001 · 08-16-2013, 05:33 PM

Is the new rapid charger bolted to the battery? Also I got version 1.5 yesterday the new battery plate and fan. Looking forward to getting caught up with you guys in the next few weeks. Will likely have the ecutek tune done sometime soon. Until then the only cel code is is tied to high manifold and intake pressure from the sensors.

fenton · 08-16-2013, 07:13 PM

After reviewing the logs it looks like the new double recharger system really does help the system preform at its best....we are getting consistently .3 psi more across the entire rpm band.

Anyone have suggestions for a good water meth setup? I'm thinking cooling the charge would have a pretty dramatic effect on the power potential.

We have a appointment on a dyno jet this time for august 21st to get closer apples to apples to others results

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08-15-2013, 12:42 PM	#1350
neutron256 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: '13 GBS Subaru BRZ Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,030 Thanks: 680 Thanked 664 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	@Robftss since it seems like a lot of us have different ideas about how to improve/modify this have you considered selling a 'Tuner' kit that just had the compressor and motor at a discounted price? Just a thought. __________________ -Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the bold)

08-16-2013, 04:02 PM	#1352
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Update Got the new recharger system installed and have to say it makes a dramatic difference in recharge time. Doing some test runs from 0 - 200 km/h resulted in recharge to 28v in about 10 seconds.... essentially the time it took me to slow back down to 80km/hr. You can just drive and drive it and the second you let off it the recharge begins to sore immediately. I have stated many times that i didnt have a problem with the recharge rate on the street but this will really help out the guys that will be trying this on autocross and on the road course. The one time i DID notice the recharge was with the BMW races. We did about 15 pulls in different gears most times back to back. After about 15 minutes of abuse it was taking longer than it did on the street. This system also has the added benefit of getting the rechargers and batteries warmed up quicker which help you get to optimal temps for dumping the most juice to the charger. Rob has also fitted a larger battery tray and with it we are able to run essentially the stock battery size with the dump batteries on the side. This will help me with starting in the winter. Total weight increase over stock with current battery setup is 9 lbs. Here is a pick of the new layout. Last edited by fenton; 08-16-2013 at 04:34 PM.

08-16-2013, 04:54 PM	#1355
Gary in NJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: WR Blue BRZ, 240Z Location: Amongst the twisty roads Posts: 587 Thanks: 21 Thanked 412 Times in 206 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Want...now....right now. __________________ Phantom ESC, ECUtek Tune, Nameless Front Pipe & Axle Back, Enkei RS+M 17x8 et35, OEM+Ref

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08-14-2013, 10:33 PM	#1345
FT_Monk Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Over the hill WRX Location: Socal Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was the current draw actually measured or based on the ESC advertised rating?

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Larkin Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, manual, asphalt Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 50 Thanks: 8 Thanked 23 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder how well this system would work with E85. With the right map running E85 and an electrocharger, or whatever the heck you call these things, could provide some very strong gains.

08-15-2013, 12:29 PM	#1348
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Back from vacation.... ready to try some new stuff and maybe get it back on the dyno when you guys are.

08-16-2013, 04:07 PM	#1353
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Added Bu-Tangs race with the S2000 to Post 5 with other comparison videos' [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wau1k13Gwc"]stock S2000 (AP1) vs FRS Boost(Electric Supercharger) Run 2 Dualview - YouTube[/ame]

08-16-2013, 04:33 PM	#1354
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Some pictures the other day when butang and I were both getting some test stuff at Robs shop. Two electric supercharged unicorns in such close proximity is a rare occasion. Lol. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

08-16-2013, 05:33 PM	#1357
Thatruth2001 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Raven FR-S Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 295 Thanks: 10 Thanked 184 Times in 87 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is the new rapid charger bolted to the battery? Also I got version 1.5 yesterday the new battery plate and fan. Looking forward to getting caught up with you guys in the next few weeks. Will likely have the ecutek tune done sometime soon. Until then the only cel code is is tied to high manifold and intake pressure from the sensors.

08-16-2013, 07:13 PM	#1358
fenton Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 2,086 Thanks: 526 Thanked 1,614 Times in 726 Posts Mentioned: 120 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	After reviewing the logs it looks like the new double recharger system really does help the system preform at its best....we are getting consistently .3 psi more across the entire rpm band. Anyone have suggestions for a good water meth setup? I'm thinking cooling the charge would have a pretty dramatic effect on the power potential. We have a appointment on a dyno jet this time for august 21st to get closer apples to apples to others results Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

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