01-25-2019, 04:23 PM | #113 |
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Interestingly, within my group at work ALL of the millenials drive vehicles with manual transmissions. I doubt that's representative of the general population though; it's a group of mechanical engineers.
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01-25-2019, 05:22 PM | #114 |
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Tada also won't explain the torque dip. He tries to apply engineering rationale to marketing and cost related compromises. Asking him why the supra has no mt or the 86 has no power is pointless.
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01-25-2019, 06:19 PM | #116 |
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eh, while Tada has said some weird stuff for this Zupra he isn't the one to blame here, it is his superiors. They pushed back from shutting up folks with a hi-po variant 86 and they are the same folks to blame for the lack of a MT.. Since Tada is the face of the project, he has to become an apologist and give the best excuses he can muster..
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Well if he's true to form, the supra will have one niggling shortcoming that everyone can yack about.
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I've read that the first batch of Supras going to the dealerships are the 1500 launch editions. 55K and it's almost certain dealerships are going to mark them up. Those things are going to sit. By the time that comes, the Munich-based team will probably be working on variants such as the aforementioned four-banger; a targa roof is still possible, and there may yet be a manual transmission, although the latter is unlikely with the six because of concerns over shift quality with such a torque-rich engine. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ototype-drive/ "Of course, the manual transmission has been in the development process," Tada said through an interpreter at the Detroit show. He acknowledged that, while an automatic is obviously faster, there's an undeniable pleasure in driving a stick shift. Tada explained that the potential for a manual Supra is complicated by the positioning of the 86, which, of course, offers a stick shift. "I don't want to sound too business-y, but I also need to support the 86. Looking at the role of the 86 and the role of the Supra, I want to differentiate, make sure they each have their own identity," he said. "If the Supra had a manual transmission, there's nowhere for the 86 to go." https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...-future-plans/
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There has never been one word about a targa from Toyota. Not one. If they were going to have a MT (with the 6) they would have had it on release. Not like they needed more time.
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Remind me who Toyota's target demographic is with a 55K Supra? Are they trying to pull an Acura? I'm getting flashbacks of the NSX debacle.
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You, Americans, as a big nation who have used first the AT have saved the manual transmission, otherwise car manufacturers would have thrown it in the garbage!
Most European markets prefer automatic or DSG over the classic manual even for supercars like Porsche Ferrari etc |
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Bingo.
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The USA will be the death of the MT not it's savior.
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He can only say what the marketing folks tell him he can say until the official releases are out there. That is the whole problem with people that believe articles written based on "interviews". The interviewers take something and spin it to what they want even if that wasn't what was meant.
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