1300 KM in Germany/Austria/Italy

[Sunday Driver]

For 5 days she was mine - a Toyota GT86. Drove her in Germany, Austria and Italy. Alps and the autobahn. Here is the footage and a review. My previous car was a 04 Mazdaspeed Mx5. I miss the steering feel and the turbo engine of that car.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq9WaKIQHI0"]Review of Toyota GT86 (Scion Fr-s, Subaru BRZ) in the Alps and Autobahn - YouTube[/ame]

[Muaddib]

You sound like a whiny bitch. I thought i criticize this car a lot. But you are complaining the door handle. LOL

[Sunday Driver]

You can rent this car at the Munich airport. I love being able to get a rental car with a manual tranny. The slushboxes kill all the rental car fun in North America.

[djmm]

You didn't turn off all the safety/nanny options that's why you couldnt' drift?
DOn't think I agree on you on many points (or maybe almost all) except the feedback on steering wheel.

[Sunday Driver]

Originally Posted by djmm

You didn't turn off all the safety/nanny options that's why you couldnt' drift?
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I had the traction and stability control fully off. As I was on a public road I was not trying to drift it. I was trying to get a little oversteer on corner exit, but the engine was not powerful enough to override the traction of the tires.

[djmm]

How come Jeremy could drift it so easily in top gear?
PS. I never tried to drift this car yet

[Sunday Driver]

A drift is initiated at corner entry. Turn in Sharply, stomp on the throttle to break the rear end loose then off the throttle, catch the drift, and now back on the throttle to maintain the drift. Here Tiff Needell explains: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbX-s1x9suM"]BMW M5 Test Drifting With Tiff Needell[Drift Lesson] Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

Of course you have to be fully committed to the corner to drift it, generally best left to the track. On the mountain roads, I was just looking for a little exit oversteer.
If you watch the following video, just a few seconds after the 38 minute mark they show a in car footage of the Aston Marting getting oversteer on corner exit. I would have liked to have more power in the gt-86 to get that kind of oversteer.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXq9xIYkZ8"]Picking the 2013 Best Driver's Car! - YouTube[/ame]

[gramicci101]

Stomping on the throttle results in power oversteer. There's also trailing throttle oversteer and plain old exceeding traction in a corner oversteer, which is what you were wanting. The 86 is not so good at power oversteer, but because it's well balanced it's good at trailing throttle oversteer.

You weren't going fast enough, or the rear end would have let go like you wanted. Plus, turning all the nannies off only turns them most of the way off; they will still catch you, just not as immediately. You have to do a pedal dance to genuinely turn everything off. So when you see videos of people hanging their 86's out and drifting, that's what they've done.

[tahdizzle]

I have very little trouble with power oversteer on the primacies.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

I have very little trouble with power oversteer on the primacies.

Agreed. And clutch drop oversteer when shifting from first to second. Could you imagine telling CSG Mike or ImperiousRex that these cars can't oversteer? They'd laugh in your face.