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Toyota 86 hybrid technically feasible, but won’t be built – report
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can we just go ahead and kill small hybrids? they dont work... escalade hybrid... works... CRZ... doesnt at all...
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it seems no one wanted a hybrid 86/FRS anyways.
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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say about Toyota being the "most profitable". Although there's some irony that the one manufacturer that killed off ALL of their sports cars is so successful. Quote:
Read here: Toyota doesn’t disclose financial details for the brand, said Greg Thome, a Lexus spokesman. He declined to confirm a 2004 estimate from former Lexus general manager Denny Clements that, depending on sales volume, product cycles and exchange rates, Lexus generated more than half of Toyota’s U.S. earnings in some years. “Luxury vehicles are always more profitable. The margins are higher, the absolute dollars are higher,” said Efraim Levy, a New York-based equity analyst for Standard & Poor’s. “Lexus has been one of the drivers for Toyota’s rapid earnings growth in North America in recent years.” Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Kg&refer=japan The $35K is just your own speculation. But honestly, I don't have a clue. I wouldn't want one. But the car was under development. And apparently won't go into production. |
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Formula 1 cars do pretty well this season with hybrid tech. Faster, more torque. They just don't make the music like they used to, they are however hoping to address that in the next gen.
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You're wasting your time going back and forth with these guys. Most of the people here have no clue about economics and company product and developement lines and just think because they want it, it will be made (turbo version xyz).
Reading between the lines regarding sales and corporate comments it'll be interesting where this car goes in the future. People say the sales are strong but with the FRS/BRZ barely outselling the Miata and Nissan Z lines already then they aren't really doing well because those platforms are years old. I agree with you, there's a shaky out look currently for this vehicle moving forward. Also, the idea that Lexus doesn't make money for Toyato is one of the best I've ever read, that guys an idiot hahaha. |
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what a load of crap :p
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Forum needs a knicker detwisting machine.
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So Toyota will built the LF-LC, RC-F, and GS-F. Which will be selling at a very very low volume but they will not make a mass production second generation 86? I'm not wishing or wanting anything. Its been stated by the chief engineer that a second generation is underway. Who am I going to believe? Tada san or you? I will gladly go with chief engineer's quote over a fanboys any day. What is Toyato? Oh, you mean Toyota... |
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They have already sold.more Frs/brz/gt86 in 1.5 years than Honda did with the S2000 in 9,years.
Don't think there is a problem with sales for a niche market car They have a great chassis, give it.the.power it needs and they will have the premium buyers as well coming in.
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Lol, you're not worth the time, I'm out. Enjoy these links, yes the FRS/BRZ is selling more (really only the FRS) but not that much more considering it's a new platform vs. an old platform.
Miata: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html 370Z: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2011/01...s-figures.html BRZ: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...s-figures.html FRS: http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2012/05...s-figures.html |
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307z in 2009 is 13,117 MX-5 in 2006 is 16,897 sales of the twins are much higher than both... 18,327 FRS + 8,587 BRZ = 26,914 simply math skills (26,914 > 13,117) (26,914 > 16,897) Ok, you were the one that said the Lexus line didn't make money. I never said such a thing. but nice try pointing out your own stupidity... |
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