New SPL Front lower control arm (FLCA) discussion - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

pcs · 11-18-2019, 10:30 AM

bump - anyone else using these? How have they held up?

how long do the rod ends / sphericals last, or how often do they need to be replaced?

Tristor · 11-18-2019, 01:04 PM

Have had these on my car for about 3 weeks now, along with rest of the kit from SPL. Thanks to these I was able to eliminate my cross caster in the front and run more positive caster allowing me to reduce static camber and still get fantastic driving feel. With all solid suspension everything just feels more direct and immediate, no waiting on weight transfer. I’m loving my car right now.

Yoniyama · 11-24-2019, 09:09 AM

Lower (unsprung) weight, greater strength, what's not to like (except for the price tag)?

I hate it when lower weight is quoted, without disclosing how much weight was lost. Surely the vendor must have done the comparison, but just won't say it. Perhaps the weight loss was too little to quote?

Higher strength? Sure, by how much. Again, the vendor must know this, but just won't say it. Is it because the increase in strength is too little to mention?

new2subaru · 11-29-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob

My front LCAs showed up. These things are beautiful.

@whataboutbob, how are these holding up for you?

SuperTom · 11-30-2019, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoniyama

Lower (unsprung) weight, greater strength, what's not to like (except for the price tag)?

I hate it when lower weight is quoted, without disclosing how much weight was lost. Surely the vendor must have done the comparison, but just won't say it. Perhaps the weight loss was too little to quote?

Higher strength? Sure, by how much. Again, the vendor must know this, but just won't say it. Is it because the increase in strength is too little to mention?

so yeah what is the weight difference?

new2subaru · 11-30-2019, 09:38 PM

There are a few pieces that were weighed here. No FLCA

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=297

I did weigh my SPL RLCA and it was less than OE but not by a lot. I have the number at work.

whataboutbob · 12-01-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

@whataboutbob, how are these holding up for you?

They are working fine. 10/10, would buy again.

new2subaru · 12-01-2019, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob

They are working fine. 10/10, would buy again.

Awesome, thanks for the reply

Sleepless · 12-02-2019, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whataboutbob

They are working fine. 10/10, would buy again.

Same here

pcs · 12-02-2019, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepless

Same here

what would you guys say is the most notable difference in driving feel when the car is pushed with the FLCA?

Sleepless · 12-03-2019, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pcs

what would you guys say is the most notable difference in driving feel when the car is pushed with the FLCA?

Mine replaced worn out stock LCA so the difference was night and day

whataboutbob · 12-04-2019, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pcs

what would you guys say is the most notable difference in driving feel when the car is pushed with the FLCA?

You're not going to get bushing deflection which will improve the turn in feel in my experience. Also they provide camber, caster, and bump steer adjustments which can let you optimize your setup for even more grip.

TGIRWD · 01-02-2020, 08:53 AM

For those still interested in weight - the SPL arms and hardware weigh in at 2540 grams per arm. My OEM arms, with whiteline subframe bushing, ball joint, and anti dive, caster bushing weighed 2727 grams. So with both of them, that's a savings of ~375 grams - about .8 lbs. Nothing major - but not necessarily the main reason for installing these.

JohnJuan · 01-02-2020, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TGIRWD

For those still interested in weight - the SPL arms and hardware weigh in at 2727 grams per arm. My OEM arms, with whiteline subframe bushing, ball joint, and anti dive, caster bushing weighed 2540 grams. So with both of them, that's a savings of ~375 grams - about .8 lbs. Nothing major - but not necessarily the main reason for installing these.

Am I reading something wrong, or does this mean a weight gain?

OEM - 2540 grams each - 5080 grams total

SPL - 2727 grams each - 5454 grams total - 374 g more than stock?

01-02-2020, 08:53 AM	#69
TGIRWD Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 10 Series FRS M/T Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For those still interested in weight - the SPL arms and hardware weigh in at 2540 grams per arm. My OEM arms, with whiteline subframe bushing, ball joint, and anti dive, caster bushing weighed 2727 grams. So with both of them, that's a savings of ~375 grams - about .8 lbs. Nothing major - but not necessarily the main reason for installing these. Last edited by TGIRWD; 01-13-2020 at 11:52 AM.

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11-18-2019, 10:30 AM	#57
pcs Member Join Date: May 2018 Drives: BRZ Location: Los Angeles Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	bump - anyone else using these? How have they held up? how long do the rod ends / sphericals last, or how often do they need to be replaced?

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Yoniyama Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: BRZ 2018 Location: California Posts: 119 Thanks: 116 Thanked 65 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lower (unsprung) weight, greater strength, what's not to like (except for the price tag)? I hate it when lower weight is quoted, without disclosing how much weight was lost. Surely the vendor must have done the comparison, but just won't say it. Perhaps the weight loss was too little to quote? Higher strength? Sure, by how much. Again, the vendor must know this, but just won't say it. Is it because the increase in strength is too little to mention?

11-30-2019, 09:38 PM	#62
new2subaru Weight Weenie Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: 15 FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 2,584 Thanks: 5,012 Thanked 2,330 Times in 1,346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are a few pieces that were weighed here. No FLCA http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=297 I did weigh my SPL RLCA and it was less than OE but not by a lot. I have the number at work.

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