Any specs on the standard Audio setup?

[viking84]

This car ticks all the boxes for me - now if I can live with the standard stereo that would mean I could, for the first time ever, leave a car completely stock! Has anyone listened to the stereo in the GT86? Any specs available (no of speakers, power, subs?).

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by viking84

This car ticks all the boxes for me - now if I can live with the standard stereo that would mean I could, for the first time ever, leave a car completely stock! Has anyone listened to the stereo in the GT86? Any specs available (no of speakers, power, subs?).

There's an electronics/audio subforum btw

8 speakers. Specs were posted in the tech manual but I don't believe them to be accurate unless they measure speakers differently over in Japan.

It looks to me from pics that we will see 6.75" woofer in each door, then on the dash firing at the windshield is a 3" mid and a .75" or so tweeter. Rear has what appears to be either a 4" or 5.25" in the side panel next to where the rear passengers sit.

No details have been released but the Scion FR-S headunit appears to be the same one they put in all scions and the BRZ is some nav unit reportedly based on MTs info. I haven't seen an amp mentioned or pictures so I'd guess all head unit power (makes some sense anyways with Scions 'buy 28 different head unit choices!' selling model).

[blur]

6.75" for door speakers? Don't you mean 6.5" inch?

My car uses 6.5" in the front door and 6x8" in the rear . . . I want to make sure that I can swap the door speakers over to the AS1 if I buy them now.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by blur

6.75" for door speakers? Don't you mean 6.5" inch?

My car uses 6.5" in the front door and 6x8" in the rear . . . I want to make sure that I can swap the door speakers over to the AS1 if I buy them now.

Lots of cars use the 6.75" now, which used to be referred to as "oversized 6.5" speakers".

6.5s fit (generally speaking) in a 6.75 spec location. I've often seen the 6.75s being used with shallower mounting depths (ie same cone area, removing cone depth for diameter).

[blur]

Great.

I still don't see the reasoning behind 8 speakers though, I'll likely only be using the front two... through an amp and a W8 tablet. I wonder if the audio-less model will still retain mounting holes for the door speakers.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by blur

Great.

I still don't see the reasoning behind 8 speakers though, I'll likely only be using the front two... through an amp and a W8 tablet. I wonder if the audio-less model will still retain mounting holes for the door speakers.

3 way front is awesome. Let's each driver do what it does best and nothing else. The mid range and tweeter up high will hopefully provide great imaging and a high, solid soundstage

[blur]

At what cost... component setups are expensive and I doubt factory is going to put in anything worthwhile... and I don't believe tweeters are as easy to fit as door speakers. Oh and less is more lol.

[Levi]

Low Spec: 16 cm front woofers
High Spec: 2,5 cm tweeters, 16 cm front woofers and maybe 8,5 cm rear mid-woofers.




They really look tiny.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by blur

At what cost... component setups are expensive and I doubt factory is going to put in anything worthwhile... and I don't believe tweeters are as easy to fit as door speakers. Oh and less is more lol.

FWIW Scion has been using component setups since the 1st gen tC, and I don't see that changing for the FR-S. I agree that less is more, especially in car, however, a proper 3-way system will always be better than a 2-way.

I was pleasantly surprised Pioneer not only provided the head unit for the tC, but the speakers as well, and while I've never been a fan of theirs, I've found the system adequate enough not to change it. Hopefully the same can be said for the FR-S.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Levi

Low Spec: 16 cm front woofers
High Spec: 2,5 cm tweeters, 16 cm front woofers and maybe 8,5 cm rear mid-woofers.

They really look tiny.

You forgot the midranges up front. Without seeing the car I'm still sticking by my original thoughts:

Low Spec: 6.5/6.74 but who cares, we won't see that.
High Spec: Fr: 6.5/6.75" mid bass in the doors, 3" midrange in the dash and .75-1" tweeter in the dash (I'd guess a .75 is more likely though), rear probably 4", but maybe 5.25" with a really undersized grill.. I'll disconnect them anyways though so it doesn't matter what they are in the rear for me :P

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by blur

At what cost... component setups are expensive and I doubt factory is going to put in anything worthwhile... and I don't believe tweeters are as easy to fit as door speakers. Oh and less is more lol.

Component systems range in price from cheap (like OEM ones) to extremely expensive. I run a ~$600 set actively in my ITR (active = not using the passive crossover network, but using the amp to actively cross the drivers). In my other integra I run a $150 or so set of components off a Kenwood head unit. The SQ difference is obvious (the ITR also has a McIntosh amp driving them...) but both are far easier to listen to than stock was which were OEM components as well using a simple cap to attenuate unwanted frequencies.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by 2fast4you

FWIW Scion has been using component setups since the 1st gen tC, and I don't see that changing for the FR-S. I agree that less is more, especially in car, however, a proper 3-way system will always be better than a 2-way.

I was pleasantly surprised Pioneer not only provided the head unit for the tC, but the speakers as well, and while I've never been a fan of theirs, I've found the system adequate enough not to change it. Hopefully the same can be said for the FR-S.

I'm hoping to leave this car alone except for some form of minor bass enhancement that will be easily removable for autocross/track days. At the very least I hope to keep the head unit, even if I have to run it through a MS8, Bit.1, etc and then run to an easily removable amp rack [the one in the ITR is held in by one bolt only, but the way I set it up for security still requires a lot of time to remove the amp rack so I leave it in for track days and autocross).

I'd love to just throw in a cheap subwoofer solution to enhance the low end (I mostly listen to rock and like to hear the lower freqs of a bass guitar, etc) and that's it

Most of Pioneers stuff isn't that great, but their really good stuff is simply fantastic.

[blur]

Originally Posted by 2fast4you

FWIW Scion has been using component setups since the 1st gen tC, and I don't see that changing for the FR-S. I agree that less is more, especially in car, however, a proper 3-way system will always be better than a 2-way.

I was pleasantly surprised Pioneer not only provided the head unit for the tC, but the speakers as well, and while I've never been a fan of theirs, I've found the system adequate enough not to change it. Hopefully the same can be said for the FR-S.

Just wondering, how loud was it? Could you open the windows at highway speeds and still hear it clearly? And was the bass responsive and heavy?

I mainly listen to electro/house/dubstep/trance etc, and for some reason those genres show flaws in any audio system very noticeably.

I was thinking if I get the low spec I could replace the door speakers with Alpine Type Rs, but you guys are convincing me otherwise Im not even sure if the component setups will work with aftermarket speaker replacement.

[2fast4you]

Originally Posted by blur

Just wondering, how loud was it? Could you open the windows at highway speeds and still hear it clearly? And was the bass responsive and heavy?

I mainly listen to electro/house/dubstep/trance etc, and for some reason those genres show flaws in any audio system very noticeably.

I was thinking if I get the low spec I could replace the door speakers with Alpine Type Rs, but you guys are convincing me otherwise Im not even sure if the component setups will work with aftermarket speaker replacement.

For full disclosure: I'm a professional audio engineer, however, I also drive a car with a header and no cats, so my audio system is mainly background noise when the engine is at speed. That said, it's still a low power OEM with a 6 3/4" sub mounted next the spare under the cargo shelf. It's a step above your typical coaxial system with tweeters mounted forward of the door pull handle and midrange mounted in the lower door. It's not impressive, and the bass isn't that powerful, but sound is not my top priority in this car. If sound is your priority, I'd recommend going aftermarket. For me, it's enough for me to still listen to hip-hop with sunroof open at highway speeds and downshifting on an off ramp.

I don't plan on adding anything more than a cat-back on the FR-S (for now ) so the OEM system will meet my needs.