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Old 08-16-2012, 11:28 AM   #29
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rev matching when 'no lift' shifting

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So let's say you no lift @ 4000 rpms, no lift activates at 4100.
Newbie question here... since you know the gear ratios, why wouldn't it be set slighty _lower_ to rev match flywheel speed to road speed (in next gear)?

Wouldn't this minimise the shock to the clutch/transmission... you're going to be bouncing the "no lift" rev limiter anyway.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #31
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Newbie question here... since you know the gear ratios, why wouldn't it be set slighty _lower_ to rev match flywheel speed to road speed (in next gear)?

Wouldn't this minimise the shock to the clutch/transmission... you're going to be bouncing the "no lift" rev limiter anyway.
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This was a question i already proposed. He is looking into it with ECUtek because it really does make more sense as far as shock to the driveline is considered.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:21 PM   #32
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Whew, looks cool. Need to do a better job of strapping that car to the dyno though. That sucker was hopping all over the place.
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If ecutek can have it revmatch to the proper rpm for the powerband/gear, I would suspect that the strain on the drivetrain would be fairly negligible.
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This is going to be awesome! John, how will you be offering this for those of us with the stage 1?
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Im going to need a new clutch sooner than expected
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Hrmm that's a interesting idea that I never thought about....

That could be a problem.

I'll talk to ecutek about this and most likely have a additional table added so above let's say 7000 rpm it flatfoots an adjustable amount of rpm below instead of above.

Thanks for pointing that out !!
This is a better solution to me, in fact what Hawaiian said makes more sense to me, I feel like the revs should match the next gear, or somewhere close. Holding the revs that high and then throwing it into the next gear, where it wants about 1000-2000rpm less doesn't make much sense to me.

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If ecutek can have it revmatch to the proper rpm for the powerband/gear, I would suspect that the strain on the drivetrain would be fairly negligible.
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Sweet video, thanks for posting it up. I'm also curious about the future development for flat foot shifting and if they will have predetermined limiters for each gear.

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This made my pants tight. I def. agree that it should be dropping rev's and not only 100, maybe 500-1000rpm or more. It should be dropping down far enough to have the engine and transmission rotating as close to same speed as possible to ensure a smoother power transfer.
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