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Old 09-30-2013, 10:52 AM   #1
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Audio Guru help needed

So I am finally ready to start my audio install. A little back ground on me; I used to install car stereo back in the day and plan to do all the work myself. I have been out of the game for a bit so thats why I am asking for help.

I have a 2013 BRZ limited. I am going to use a Kenwood DNX8120 headunit since I can't seem to sell it anyways. I will need to run a GPS antenna unelss I can somehow use the factory one. The same goes for the bluetooth mic. Help here would be awesome. Also, I plan to do some pretty extensive sound deadening on the door and cannot find a thread where someone did so with corrugated plastic inserts and alot of really nice custom touches. So inout on sound deadening is apprecaited too. I have a JL XD400w 4 channel I plan to run the doors and dash speakers on and leave the rears on headunit power. I would like to go with a quality Hertz or JL audio componant set and some decent 4" speakers in the dash as well. Speaker suggestions are welcome. I will be getting a JL audio XD600 for the Sub and going with a JL audio 10W6 sub in a custom passenger side corner box. Thanks for reading and any input you can provide.


CLIFF NOTES: Can you use factory GPS and bluetotohm ic with aftermarket HU?
Speaker suggestions for doors and dash?
Sound deadening advice?
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You should be able to just splice the gps and mic wires into the HU wire harness, provided it does have the inputs.
There is a sound deadening thread on here, look for it.. you will find it.
So your gonna be running a 3 way component? or a 2 way and mids? I dont see why you would buy a component set and then add mids to it..

I like to keep things the same, so if you are already in the JL scene; stick with it. JL has some decent sets on their catalogue, look up and see what fits your budget and needs.
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I like to keep things the same, so if you are already in the JL scene; stick with it. JL has some decent sets on their catalogue, look up and see what fits your budget and needs.
i don't see any reason to keep anything the same.. every brand excels in different area's, there's no reason to accept less in one area just because another area seems better than the other brands...

that's why i ran peerless mids, dayton tweeters, kicker subs, and alpine amps...
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If you want to add 4" mids into the mix, then you're going to need either custom x-overs for them or run active with a processor. Unless the amp you choose has a suitable bandpass filter.

Check this thread for ideas: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29027
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If you want to add 4" mids into the mix, then you're going to need either custom x-overs for them or run active with a processor. Unless the amp you choose has a suitable bandpass filter.

Check this thread for ideas: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29027
Having tried to integrate 3.5" mids without a DSP/processor, I would second getting a good processor if you insist on the mids. I ended up disabling mine since the audio actually sounded worse with the 3.5's added to the mix. I plan to get a processor down the road.

Otherwise just focus on getting some good tweeters and woofers and a sub. It is a big upgrade vs stock.
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After looking at some of the pro audio builds it seems tweeters in the dash and a good set of 6.5's in the doors is what a lot of people are doing. I don't mind sticking to JL for amps because they are small and work great but I want really good sound quality and volume. I would have figured no mids in the dash would take away from the front stage but the pros are doing it so it must work.

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Yes, 2-way is considerably easier than 3-way to get right.
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Yes, 2-way is considerably easier than 3-way to get right.
And cheaper. You can get a better 2-way system vs 3-way for the same money.
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Sound deadening advice?
The factory GPS is cabled to the factory amp in the trunk for power. Yes you can use it, just be prepared to hone your wire-fu skills. For most it is too much hassle.

The factory Bluetooth mic is tuned to the factory head unit. You can use it,but it will sound bad on the other end.

If you go with the 3-way components and use both the amps crossover and the passive crossover for the components you should be fine. Both Hertz and JL make good components. Listen to them both and then go with what sounds best to you. FYI, I went Hertz Mille 3 PA and have not regretted it one bit.

For sound deadening, look at the sticky audio index at the top of this sub forum for some good ideas. Also, diyma forum has a LOT of good info on the subject.
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The factory GPS is cabled to the factory amp in the trunk for power. Yes you can use it, just be prepared to hone your wire-fu skills. For most it is too much hassle.

The factory Bluetooth mic is tuned to the factory head unit. You can use it,but it will sound bad on the other end.

If you go with the 3-way components and use both the amps crossover and the passive crossover for the components you should be fine. Both Hertz and JL make good components. Listen to them both and then go with what sounds best to you. FYI, I went Hertz Mille 3 PA and have not regretted it one bit.

For sound deadening, look at the sticky audio index at the top of this sub forum for some good ideas. Also, diyma forum has a LOT of good info on the subject.
What does that set run?

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i don't see any reason to keep anything the same.. every brand excels in different area's, there's no reason to accept less in one area just because another area seems better than the other brands...

that's why i ran peerless mids, dayton tweeters, kicker subs, and alpine amps...
Sure, with all the new technology you dont need mids just to separate the frequency, a component set thats tuned right will sound just as tight as going separates all the way, which is a shit ton of work.
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I had gotten my Mille MLK 3 PA for $1600. They are Hertz top of the line components. The HSK 163 set is the High Energy Hertz version of them and it runs around $600. The main reason I went with the Mille was the 6.5" from the set. It's one of the best, if not the best, midbass drivers on the market. After a lot of sound deadening to my doors, I almost did not need a sub.
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You can use the factory BT mic, I wrote a DIY on how to do it somewhere. Alternatively, you can run your Kenwood mic to the factory location, unclip the factory mic and mount the Kenwood, no wire splicing needed for that option (I also have a DIY for this).

The GPS antenna doesn't really need to be ran. It can be tucked behind the passenger side dash panels and receive full signal, that's where I have had mine with 0 issues in 4 months.
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