Is the Toyota 86 a “safe” buy?

[Celica94]

Hi, I am looking to purchase my first Toyota 86, however I have just learnt about the recall for 2012 - 2013 models. I have 3 questions.

1. Should I absolutely avoid buying the 2012/2013 model of the 86 even if it’s had its recall done?
2. Is the 2014+ model safe from the issue that caused the recall, and is it a “safe” buy?
I will be buying pre owned and only looking at ones under 100,000km.

Forgive me if this isn’t the right section of the forum for this.

[mariooo86]

yeah just make sure you check the oil frequently, she drinks a lot


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[DarkPira7e]

My car never leaked or consumed a drop of oil between 22,000 miles when I bought it and 56,000 miles today. The car is perfectly sound, I wouldn't hesitate to buy any model year. Any cars that were going to be affected by that recall likely were affected in the first few thousand miles.

Buy an unmodified example and do your research on the history of the vehicle. It's a very good car when taken care of, like most vehicles. Don't fear

[mariooo86]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

My car never leaked or consumed a drop of oil between 22,000 miles when I bought it and 56,000 miles today. The car is perfectly sound, I wouldn't hesitate to buy any model year. Any cars that were going to be affected by that recall likely were affected in the first few thousand miles.

Buy an unmodified example and do your research on the history of the vehicle. It's a very good car when taken care of, like most vehicles. Don't fear

>>>probably just user error then oops


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[wbradley]

I have an April 2012 production 2013 MY that has ~ 65000 kms.

Yeah the engine absolutely implodes every kilometer. There is a trail of nuts and bolts down the street where I drive. When I do eventually sell the car I am hoping someone will accept a personal cheque as payment for removal. It got all the more worse when i slapped on a supercharger and coilovers since the car is loud and clunky too. But it is fast as shit. And I have had 1 repair, replace starter motor. I fried it previously trying to crank the engine with the belt held tight by a seized supercharger. It lasted as few months after that.
Seriously, my car has been great with a leaky taillight as the only warranty complaint and I have decided to hold off on the recall job for now since the dealer wants to charge extra to work on my supercharged engine even though the de-cluttering will actually hugely speed up the job. The springs had plenty of time to fail, so clearly mine aren't faulty. And resale value only matters if you plan to sell. I'd like to tuck this one into a barn one day.

[Decep]

Originally Posted by mariooo86

>>>probably just user error then oops


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like most engines it varies. there's also plenty of cases of oil leaks in these cars too...

bottom line is check your oil regularly no matter what!

[Celica94]

Thanks for the replies so far, everyone. It seems like it has been overhyped. The car I am looking at had had 60,000 kms done.

Now, if I am still paranoid about this potential issue, is it a safe bet just to go with a 2014 model or above? That will rule out that issue yes?

[mariooo86]

Originally Posted by Celica94

Thanks for the replies so far, everyone. It seems like it has been overhyped. The car I am looking at had had 60,000 kms done.

Now, if I am still paranoid about this potential issue, is it a safe bet just to go with a 2014 model or above? That will rule out that issue yes?

you should be fine, its a great car and handles good. Make sure to check the car fax


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[mattyice]

Originally Posted by Celica94

Thanks for the replies so far, everyone. It seems like it has been overhyped. The car I am looking at had had 60,000 kms done.

Now, if I am still paranoid about this potential issue, is it a safe bet just to go with a 2014 model or above? That will rule out that issue yes?

I'd go with a 2014+, but the 86(in any year), is not going to be as reliably as your 90's Celica.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by mariooo86

yeah just make sure you check the oil frequently, she drinks a lot


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Oh, maybe yours does, mine don't -


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Celica94

Thanks for the replies so far, everyone. It seems like it has been overhyped. The car I am looking at had had 60,000 kms done.

Now, if I am still paranoid about this potential issue, is it a safe bet just to go with a 2014 model or above? That will rule out that issue yes?

Welcome to the forum, there, Celica94 -

The 2014 model year and newer are not affected by the present valve spring recall.

My 2013 FR-S has 25,000 miles on it and is under the valve spring recall, however, I'm not going to have it done. Why not? If it ain't broke by now, I ain't gonna let them break it.

I suggest you just pick one that hasn't been molested, leave it that way and just enjoy driving it.


humfrz

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, maybe yours does, mine don't -


humfrz

My 17 drinks no oil either.

For resale, I would not buy anything with this valve spring recall.

I'm not saying they will implode, but if I was looking for a used twin I would not buy anything which within the valve spring recall.

Will this effect used prices, unknown, but better safe than sorry.

In saying that, you could use the recall as bargaining leverage, in the end, how many valve springs failed?

Whilst there is still risk with a car that hasn't had the recall work, it is a minimal risk.

There is apparently more risk if the car has had the recall due to overuse or improper use of sealant, I would not touch a car that had just had the recall work, although only a slight risk, it could be a ticking time bomb.

The only people who would disagree would be the current owners of cars within the recall.

Opinions may vary

As for modifications, the only 3 war stoppers for me would be:

1. Any car that had FI, it is so easy to hurt the engine.

2. any car that has seen a track, or autocross circuit.

3. cars lowered more than 30mm.

There are plenty of stock or well modified cars out there.

Have your cash in your pocket and low ball away, the worst is they say no, the best is you score a bargain

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[86MLR]

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