follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing)

Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) Everything related to the mechanical maintenance of the FR-S and BRZ


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-11-2018, 12:51 PM   #15
SCQTT
ZWEI KOLBEN
 
SCQTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2017 86 Halo 6MT
Location: Mikes Sky Rancho
Posts: 245
Thanks: 106
Thanked 163 Times in 88 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowReaper View Post
It says it blends with premium gas. So you use this mainly as a safe factor or for driving feeling
I have a few motorcycles that are pretty high compression and I throw a little 485 in there to help quell detonation, especially if I get some lower octane gas than I really want to put in them.

I have been using it for many, many years and in my experience it works well.

FWIW, the bikes are injected and have cats, no problems. In fact, seems to keep things very clean.

Since the castor is a lubricant I think I will try it when I get the crickets, who knows, might help.
SCQTT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2018, 01:04 PM   #16
MuseChaser
Feeling like thinking....
 
MuseChaser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: CNY
Posts: 1,664
Thanks: 1,664
Thanked 2,433 Times in 1,064 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by humfrz View Post
Now, that makes sense. I reckon I was reading what he ( @Spuds ) said differently .....


humfrz
I read it as meaning "Makes only 80% of its power at elevation," or losing 20% of it's power, with 80% remaining available. Fun... three different interpretations of the same statement, with VASTLY different meanings and conclusions. One literalist whose interpretation is completely justifiable based upon the original statement yet probably not at all what the original poster was trying to say (Humfrz), and two interpretations by folks trying to figure out what the original poster truly was TRYING to say (me reading it as 80% of the power, and SCQTT reading it as 80% of the REASON for loss of power is due to elevation) Hmmmm... wonder if there's an allegory there anywhere in today's journalism.... oh, never, mind..

Let's do the thing the journalists don't seem to ever do or care about.. let's find out what the O.P. REALLY meant..
@Spuds ?
__________________
Drive like everyone's life around you depends on it...
MuseChaser is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MuseChaser For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-11-2018)
Old 05-11-2018, 01:20 PM   #17
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,399
Thanks: 26,057
Thanked 12,400 Times in 6,129 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Annd the winner is... @SCQTT! 80% of the perceived loss is due to altitude was the original meaning. Maybe I was wrong anyway.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-11-2018), MuseChaser (05-11-2018)
Old 05-11-2018, 01:58 PM   #18
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 29,861
Thanks: 28,777
Thanked 31,795 Times in 16,418 Posts
Mentioned: 707 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
Annd the winner is... @SCQTT! 80% of the perceived loss is due to altitude was the original meaning. Maybe I was wrong anyway.
Well, good to get that clarified .........

I suggest you get that 80/20 rule clarified prior to your wedding day.

You: you can be right 20% of the time .... and I'll be right 80% of the time

Her: Nope

You: OK, You can be right 80% of the time .... and I will be right 20% of the time?

Her: Nope

You: OK, what % of the time can I be right?

Her: Depends on what % of the time you want to be happy ......


If you don't want to believe that ...... check back with me in five years .....


humfrz
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post:
FastWhite (06-02-2018), Spuds (05-11-2018)
Old 05-11-2018, 07:47 PM   #19
Impureclient
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2015
Drives: 2015 FR-S
Location: NPR, Florida
Posts: 2,404
Thanks: 1,802
Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
What about a water/methanol injection system?
Impureclient is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2018, 09:26 PM   #20
Teseo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Drives: frs
Location: Gunsai
Posts: 4,874
Thanks: 7,128
Thanked 2,919 Times in 1,767 Posts
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Impureclient View Post
What about a water/methanol injection system?
Only a pussi run on meth

According with Dom Toretto
Teseo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-11-2018, 09:30 PM   #21
Impureclient
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2015
Drives: 2015 FR-S
Location: NPR, Florida
Posts: 2,404
Thanks: 1,802
Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teseo View Post
Only a pussi run on meth

According with Dom Toretto
WTF!! You looked under my hood?
Impureclient is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2018, 09:12 PM   #22
ShadowReaper
Indulgent Tormenter
 
ShadowReaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Drives: 15' LTD Subaru BRZ DGM
Location: FL
Posts: 486
Thanks: 316
Thanked 128 Times in 87 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
So far, only boosters and water/meth..

No one has mixed different octanes?
__________________

Instagram: 86_Maul
ShadowReaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2018, 10:25 PM   #23
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,399
Thanks: 26,057
Thanked 12,400 Times in 6,129 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowReaper View Post
So far, only boosters and water/meth..

No one has mixed different octanes?
It's fine. People mix different octane fuels all the time. It will blend and average out. If you can find premium somewhere that is.

I thought you were talking about mixing different types of fuel. That's also done quite a bit. As I said, most pump gas in the US I've seen is up to e10 (10% ethanol) anyway. Usually there's a disclaimer saying so at the pump.

Maybe I don't understand the problem?
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-13-2018)
Old 05-12-2018, 10:44 PM   #24
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,118
Thanks: 18,088
Thanked 16,253 Times in 7,346 Posts
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Mixing is no problem. Don't know why this is even a question.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2018, 11:00 AM   #25
ShadowReaper
Indulgent Tormenter
 
ShadowReaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Drives: 15' LTD Subaru BRZ DGM
Location: FL
Posts: 486
Thanks: 316
Thanked 128 Times in 87 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG View Post
Mixing is no problem. Don't know why this is even a question.
Not so much questioning the action of mixing but the portions of mixing. For example... 8 gallons of 91 octane, mixed with 3 gallons of 100 octane... how much octane would that total. I honestly haven't heard mixing with 100 octane being a problem or not, just looking for peoples experience.

Edit: I did come across a conversion chart, that may have answered my main question.

__________________

Instagram: 86_Maul
ShadowReaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2018, 11:07 AM   #26
ShadowReaper
Indulgent Tormenter
 
ShadowReaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Drives: 15' LTD Subaru BRZ DGM
Location: FL
Posts: 486
Thanks: 316
Thanked 128 Times in 87 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
It's fine. People mix different octane fuels all the time. It will blend and average out. If you can find premium somewhere that is.

I thought you were talking about mixing different types of fuel. That's also done quite a bit. As I said, most pump gas in the US I've seen is up to e10 (10% ethanol) anyway. Usually there's a disclaimer saying so at the pump.

Maybe I don't understand the problem?
Just wanted to hear people experiences before I do something stupid. Ive never mixed different octanes so...

I was also recommended e15 but it looks like thats about 88-90 octane, but more ethanol of course
__________________

Instagram: 86_Maul
ShadowReaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2018, 12:22 PM   #27
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,118
Thanks: 18,088
Thanked 16,253 Times in 7,346 Posts
Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
I would talk to your tuner about logging your car and checking it out first. You may not even need 93, 91 may be perfectly fine.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-13-2018)
Old 05-13-2018, 04:54 PM   #28
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 29,861
Thanks: 28,777
Thanked 31,795 Times in 16,418 Posts
Mentioned: 707 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowReaper View Post
Not so much questioning the action of mixing but the portions of mixing. For example... 8 gallons of 91 octane, mixed with 3 gallons of 100 octane... how much octane would that total. I honestly haven't heard mixing with 100 octane being a problem or not, just looking for peoples experience.

Edit: I did come across a conversion chart, that may have answered my main question.

A chart for those who are math challenged .....


humfrz
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Premium vs regular fuels emishor86 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 156 05-12-2016 01:45 AM
OFT Maps suitable for UK fuels Gringosteve Software Tuning 14 03-31-2016 06:40 AM
Shell URT Advanced / / Sonoco 260GTX // Race Fuels BC-Boy Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 2 03-11-2014 10:12 AM
Delicious Tuning: EcuTeK Stage 1 or 2 on 91, 93 or E85 fuels DeliciousTuning Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 1 09-19-2013 05:58 PM
100 octane race gas: 91 octane ratio? GhostofAkina Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 15 02-08-2013 01:23 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.