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Old 09-11-2012, 08:51 PM   #15
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The grippy fronts are what's causing you to spin out. Epson1 is half correct on what he said. You should lift up sometimes, but you should definitely be going in with a higher speed. As much as you might not like understeer, a drift is very much understeer but in a different way. Your front tires don't have the grip that it does during normal cornering, it's just suggesting the way you go. You control your drift using just the gas and wheel. Gas to control how much angle you have in a drift, and steer to change trajectory. What I usually do when I drift for SPEED and not for SHOW is to try and go into a turn with decent speed, drift, angle the car in the direction that you wanna exit the corner and use that angle to transition from the apex to your exiting line. Try and control the grip from your rear tires from slipping through the turn and gripping on your recovery, but try not to wobble the car on exit, because you lose a lot of speed that way when your car is trying to fight forces that are inhibiting the direction you wanna go.

Remember what the purpose of drifting is for. It's not to burn away your tires and it's not JUST for show. It's to take a corner at higher entry speed, have higher than average speed through a turn and to achieve a higher exit speed. Don't worry about the fancy looking angles, those guys are slower on a track. The smoother you drive through a turn, the faster you go in, go through, and go out. Once you understand that, then you will be able to drift for show a lot easier.

I understand you're just learning atm. I'm very happy to see people like you sharing your track days and experience with us (BRING MOAR!!). I don't want you to think I'm being critical. It's just that to me, drifting is more than a slide through a turn. There's a reason for it. It's to be quicker through a turn than gripping through it.

Do what AJUSA says, track time, track time, track time. The more you do it, the better you will get. It's a lot of muscle memory and experience that will lead you to be a better driver. Especially when you get to know your car and it's limits. Just do me a favor and don't use the E-Brake in learning how to drift. Learn to shift the weight of the car in order to get it to do what you want. Slam on the brakes, shift weight to front, then slam wheel left as you lift off the brake pedal and slam on gas. Once you get it sideways, use the throttle to maintain your angle. If it oversteers too much then let off just by a hair to gain a little extra grip, if it's not angled enough, then press down harder. It's constant management of the throttle to maintain a good angle.

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Old 09-12-2012, 11:59 AM   #16
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There's a reason for it. It's to be quicker through a turn than gripping through it.
Lol, what?
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:23 PM   #17
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lower the rear psi to 40 next time. To high and you will never get any grip and just keep spinning out.

This car lives up to the old 86 where you just gotta pin it to win kind of driving style.
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Lol, what?
Sorry if I wasn't being clear. What I mean is that sometimes a DRIFT is quicker through a turn than if you just GRIP through it. Grip meaning driving up to a turn, slowing down, turn into APEX, and accelerate out. Or just not drifting through.
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Thanks for all the tips/feedback ! I look fwd to more seat time this next Spring! I will try running stockers all around next time.

I didn't try e brake once, just clutch kick - but then I found it much easier to just turn in tighter to initiate drift and throttle/steer from there. Def Big Learning Experience/Challenging!!
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:54 PM   #21
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Awesome!!! Always good to see people using their cars for multiple purposes, and drifting and hooning around on the track is just about as fun as it gets in my book!!

Thanks for the post, and of course... More Videos!!!!

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Wow that looks like a nice place that you could just continuously turn and burn.

I'd love to take my new tires and boost to that this weekend!

I'm assuming it's in Washington?
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Good to see other member drifting their car.

Btw i totall agree with too much rear air pressure. when i went ( for sure it's pavement depending) i've put them at 45 psi, and brought them down to 33 psi at the end because i didn't have enough grip.

When i get more power i will probably be around the same tire pressure then i use to drift on my skyline r32, which was around 25 psi.
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^ Agreed. I know stock PSI is above 40, and it's flipping stupid.
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Wow that looks like a nice place that you could just continuously turn and burn.

I'd love to take my new tires and boost to that this weekend!

I'm assuming it's in Washington?
Just 15-20min East of Spokane , WA out in Post Falls/ Stateline Idaho area. They run circle track events there, figure 8 too now! Def big, open track to learn/practice on

Series is StatelineDrift , they have a Facebook of vids and such of events..they are pretty cool group, laid back, heck at times like 3-5 cars all run at once if daring! Or single car run like me. 95% Nissan 240s, I was only Newer car out there, people kept commenting it was cool to see FR-S out there.
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My FR-S made the Compilation vid of last local open drift :)

I am a newb, only had a partial day in the FR-S learning it, but had a Great time!!

Here is compilation of the day, I Love the Pearl White Silvia
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twokOS2SlGA&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]State Line Drift - Last Event 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

Thanks @Alrashwa for filming!
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