Full-Race Motorsports Turbo Kit Owners Thread and FAQ

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by TruthfulDeception

With what turbo would there a way to get a bit earlier spool? I may be looking at grabbing one of these. Right now my goal is 300 (easy).

6758 EFR would spool earlier by about 500rpms

[maxjedi]

Originally Posted by VeloxEric

We are not only located close to Full-Race but also work closely with them.

Do you sell separate parts of the turbo kit ? I only need intercooler & crash beam.

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by TruthfulDeception

With what turbo would there a way to get a bit earlier spool? I may be looking at grabbing one of these. Right now my goal is 300 (easy).

What @ATL BRZ said. You have two options for turbos smaller than the 7163, both offer slightly quicker spool with less power potential but both will hit 300whp on E85 without an issue on a stock block. The 6758 and the 6258 would be the EFR turbos you'd want to look at, with the 6758 being the unit I'd personally suggest if you don't want the 7163.

Originally Posted by maxjedi

Do you sell separate parts of the turbo kit ? I only need intercooler & crash beam.

I'll ask Full-Race and get back with you.

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Last weekend we tested out the turbo kit with some 1/2 mile racing. Had some fun, didn't blow the car up, ran a 137MPH, turbo kit did great. Can't complain! Below are some pictures. Ran a total of 10 times by noon, ranging from 134 to 137 trap speed.





















Going through some of the data logs I took during the event and check out the intake air temp! This charge air cooler is performing very very well given ambient *air* temp was 97 deg. F (36 deg. C). That temperature reading is at 130+MPH after 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and going into 6th gear at 13.5 PSI.



I'll be working on a video with some footage of the 1/2 mile event and the dyno day.

Thanks,
Eric

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by maxjedi

Do you sell separate parts of the turbo kit ? I only need intercooler & crash beam.

I received confirmation today, they are willing to sell the charge air cooler and crash beam combo. I am waiting on pricing from them and then I will PM you.

Thanks,
Eric

[choi0706]

know of any way of making the washer tank still work?

[djwishbone]

Originally Posted by choi0706

know of any way of making the washer tank still work?

If you don't use the "cold air" intake and are willing to use an open element in the engine bay you can leave it in. Otherwise you will have to get a smaller one. I think there's a company that makes one but not sure if it fits with this kit. I'll be looking into this as well.

[OkieSnuffBox]

^PTuning.

[johl]

This is not just aimed at this particular kit (which looks like a very well built example) but why do almost all manufacturers place the turbo towards where the washer bottle and standard air box would be? You can still make an equal length manifold and position the turbo on towards the passenger side of the engine bay. Obviously you would be limited due to leaving enough room for the dump pipe.

Does anyone have a good reason for this? Or is there someone that makes a twin scroll equal length manifold that places the turbo more towards the passenger side? I've been looking for one for quite some time

[olsonpg]

Planning on getting this kit too, just waiting on the oil cooler option.

Is the 6758 the fastest spooling option?

[djwishbone]

Originally Posted by johl

This is not just aimed at this particular kit (which looks like a very well built example) but why do almost all manufacturers place the turbo towards where the washer bottle and standard air box would be? You can still make an equal length manifold and position the turbo on towards the passenger side of the engine bay. Obviously you would be limited due to leaving enough room for the dump pipe.

Does anyone have a good reason for this? Or is there someone that makes a twin scroll equal length manifold that places the turbo more towards the passenger side? I've been looking for one for quite some time

If I were to guess it would have to do with piping complexity and exhaust routing. There are a lot of kits and keeping costs down during R&D must be a priority. The exhaust already runs down the passenger side so it makes the most sense to have it pointing that way.

The exception would be people like full blown or avo turbo. FB places it to the rear top so they can build a proper intake on the passenger side but they have a lot of intake piping and exhaust routing to deal with. On paper it should have less response and potentially build pressure slower, but overall I really like their kit.

Avo mounts the turbo under the engine. I like this design the most since it places the turbo so close to the exhaust. It also allows the use of the stock airbox which is ideal for "cold air". I didn't care for their turbo choice, IC, or longer path to intake.

I went with FR because of the EFR turbo, local support and optimized pathing for the best possible response. Look at the dyno, this thing spools so damn quick. However, I've never liked the intake path provided by this particular design. You can leave it in the engine bay and suck in hot air or take your bumper off every time you need to inspect or clean your air filter. It's all a trade off.

[VerusEric]

Originally Posted by johl

This thread has me seriously thinking about using the same efr turbo you did rather than the smaller 6758. Who can argue with full boost at 3500rpm.

I was originally going to utilise twin external wastegates with my twin scroll manifold so I can keep the exhaust pulses entirely seperate. I'm unsure how the borgwarner internal wastegate manages to vent both sides of the exhaust housing? Or maybe I am just over thinking it as I am absolutely sure people much smarter than I have designed this turbo

You can see that the turbine is fully divided and has a port for each volute in the below photo. This divide is kept all the way to the flapper door, just like running twin external wastegates except it's all kept internal and dumps back into the exhaust stream just after the turbine. It's a very well designed turbine housing.

Originally Posted by johl

And the bov just vents the boost back to the intake, not to atmosphere? Is anyone concerned about venting the boost so far from the throttle body?

I read on the borgwarner website that you can also run a normal blow off valve in conjunction with their item

There is no issue with the BPV being where it is located. It is honestly one of the most effective BPVs I've witnessed first hand. I haven't heard any surge which means it is doing a great job at venting any excess pressure in the pressurized intake tract.

I see no reason to run another BOV unless you want more noise.

Thanks,
Eric

[djwishbone]

So it begins...

[VerusEric]

I finished my short video of the Full-Race kit build, dyno, and 1/2 mile run. I apologize in advance for the lack of creativity and flare... very much an engineer and not a videographer. Someday... someday...

Anyway, I hope you enjoy . I like watching the wastegate actuator articulate, haven't seen that in many other videos.

Thanks,
Eric

[FR-S10Series]

Has anyone had any overheating issues with it being a front mount turbo kit? Does anyone make an oil pan with a prewelded oil drain fitting (would the full blown oil pan work)?