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stevo585 · 01-29-2016, 10:37 PM

So back from the track on ~e65 and ran 13.8 @ 101.

stevo585 · 01-29-2016, 11:07 PM

Pics or it didnt happen...so pics

. Was about 50 F and also about 40% humidity.

stevo585 · 02-03-2016, 10:08 PM

So I assume no one uses LiPo batteries? Any reason why you can't?

Only thing I can think of is maybe recharging. Its also hard to find the right voltage.What is the under and over voltage of the controller?

You could do (4) 7.2V packs. Thats 28.8 V.

Sojhinn · 02-03-2016, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo585

So I assume no one uses LiPo batteries? Any reason why you can't?

Only thing I can think of is maybe recharging. Its also hard to find the right voltage.What is the under and over voltage of the controller?

You could do (4) 7.2V packs. Thats 28.8 V.

Need a lipo charger for lipo batteries. The controller isn't setup for it. Plus lipo is much more sensitive to heat. And our engine bay gets fricking hot.

Is it possible?

Yeah.

Will it do better performance?

Probably because it makes a huge difference for my rc cars and planes.

Is it best for our setup?

Eh. Between cost and performance increase probably not.

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stevo585 · 02-03-2016, 10:35 PM

Yeah I figured charging was the issue.

I might do a dual dump setup (4X) after a while with car audio batteries. There pretty narrow I maybe able to fit them plus the start all in front be about 15 inches. Not wanting to relocate the starter outside the engine bay.

I just want that voltage to stay more stable. Its drops to 21-22V that means there isnt enough capacity.

WNDSRFR · 02-04-2016, 08:03 AM

LiPo's are way too expensive. LiOn's would be the way to go. The only advantage lithium polymer has over lithium ion is weight. That's why they are used in RC airplanes and helicopters. A large enough LiPo to use with the ESC would probably cost a thousand dollars or more.

WNDSRFR · 02-04-2016, 08:04 AM

How about NiCad?

stevo585 · 02-04-2016, 07:38 PM

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LiPo's are way too expensive. LiOn's would be the way to go. The only advantage lithium polymer has over lithium ion is weight. That's why they are used in RC airplanes and helicopters. A large enough LiPo to use with the ESC would probably cost a thousand dollars or more.

yeah it would if you still want 20 ah. But the thing is LiPo can use nearly all their capacity where a lead acid only 50% to 70%.

Might be ok with just 10ah still ~30 seconds of boost. The amp dump is way, way faster too at 30C on average. I bet the voltage would not drop much. If the boost level would go up or not is a different story...

stevo585 · 02-04-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

How about NiCad?

Those are alot cheaper but don't dump enough amps it seems. Most are like 6C. So you would need ~40 ah. (40 x 6) = 240 amps for 4000watts.

WNDSRFR · 02-05-2016, 07:56 AM

The other thing about LIPO's is their tendency to burst into flame. With the constant charging and discharging they're almost guaranteed to burn your car down. Just look at the "hoverboards".

Sojhinn · 02-05-2016, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

The other thing about LIPO's is their tendency to burst into flame. With the constant charging and discharging they're almost guaranteed to burn your car down. Just look at the "hoverboards".

Our cars would be inspired by Ferraris!

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rdub-S · 02-08-2016, 08:06 PM

Officially a member of the club now. Hope to get it installed this weekend.

Sojhinn · 02-08-2016, 08:07 PM

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Officially a member of the club now. Hope to get it installed this weekend.

Let me know if you need help with anything.

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stevo585 · 02-11-2016, 09:02 PM

Anyone set full activation at 50% throttle? Not sure what issues this would cause..I'm sure you could tune it right.

01-29-2016, 10:37 PM	#533
stevo585 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: White 2014 BRZ Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 519 Thanks: 131 Thanked 155 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So back from the track on ~e65 and ran 13.8 @ 101. __________________ JDL Turbo kit - Ecutek, HRI tuned.

01-29-2016, 11:07 PM	#534
stevo585 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: White 2014 BRZ Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 519 Thanks: 131 Thanked 155 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pics or it didnt happen...so pics . Was about 50 F and also about 40% humidity. Attached Images __________________ JDL Turbo kit - Ecutek, HRI tuned.

02-03-2016, 10:08 PM	#535
stevo585 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: White 2014 BRZ Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 519 Thanks: 131 Thanked 155 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I assume no one uses LiPo batteries? Any reason why you can't? Only thing I can think of is maybe recharging. Its also hard to find the right voltage.What is the under and over voltage of the controller? You could do (4) 7.2V packs. Thats 28.8 V. __________________ JDL Turbo kit - Ecutek, HRI tuned.

02-03-2016, 10:35 PM	#537
stevo585 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: White 2014 BRZ Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 519 Thanks: 131 Thanked 155 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah I figured charging was the issue. I might do a dual dump setup (4X) after a while with car audio batteries. There pretty narrow I maybe able to fit them plus the start all in front be about 15 inches. Not wanting to relocate the starter outside the engine bay. I just want that voltage to stay more stable. Its drops to 21-22V that means there isnt enough capacity. __________________ JDL Turbo kit - Ecutek, HRI tuned.

02-08-2016, 08:06 PM	#544
rdub-S Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Idaho Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	joined the club Officially a member of the club now. Hope to get it installed this weekend.

02-04-2016, 08:03 AM	#538
WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 228 Thanked 823 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	LiPo's are way too expensive. LiOn's would be the way to go. The only advantage lithium polymer has over lithium ion is weight. That's why they are used in RC airplanes and helicopters. A large enough LiPo to use with the ESC would probably cost a thousand dollars or more.

02-04-2016, 08:04 AM	#539
WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 228 Thanked 823 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How about NiCad?

02-05-2016, 07:56 AM	#542
WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 228 Thanked 823 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The other thing about LIPO's is their tendency to burst into flame. With the constant charging and discharging they're almost guaranteed to burn your car down. Just look at the "hoverboards".

02-11-2016, 09:02 PM	#546
stevo585 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Drives: White 2014 BRZ Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 519 Thanks: 131 Thanked 155 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Anyone set full activation at 50% throttle? Not sure what issues this would cause..I'm sure you could tune it right. __________________ JDL Turbo kit - Ecutek, HRI tuned.

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