Non expierenced tuner, trying to upgrade my frs...

[Jonoraven93]

Originally Posted by tmcmullins

I personally think it is important to understand exactly what your car is doing before you start tweaking it. There are a lot of parts that have a symbiotic relationship with each other. You will run into issues and you should be prepared. There's this guy on youtube that has some really good videos explaining how certain things work in cars. His videos are very educational. Good luck on your journey.

I appreciate the info, but I personally did not plan on installing my purchases, and I deffinetly do not plan on buying right off the bat, like I said researching first.

[Jonoraven93]

Originally Posted by SloS14

Are you an English teacher?

No I'm an electrician and only 20 with only car payment insurance and rent as bills

[campy]

It's like my dad always said, "if you want a fast car, buy a fast car. Don't buy a slow car and try to make it fast."

If you want the most horsepower, there are plenty of turbo options. Full Blown and Vortech are popular options. The problem with adding this much power is that the frs isn't designed for it. So going over 300whp, you will need to start looking at new clutches and other internal bits. You will also need a bigger, high flowing 2.5" or 3" exhaust. I read somewhere from someone who turbo'd their 86 that they needed softer suspension in the rear because they could never get any grip. Coilovers are definitely the better option for this since they're adjustable, but obviously they cost more. Look into Buddy Club and the KW V3s. I hear a lot of people talk about Stance coilovers but idk how good they are.

The most important mod will be tires. If you're going for mad HP, you will want more performance-oriented tires, like Dunlop Direzza Star Specs or Hankook RS3s. As for rims, Enkei RPF1s seem popular. But that's really an opinion thing.

[Jonoraven93]

[QUOTE=campy;892785]It's like my dad always said, "if you want a fast car, buy a fast car. Don't buy a slow car and try to make it fast."



Well by fast car I don't exactly mean race circuit ready. I'm just lookin for a little better then stock. Somethin with a bit more gitti up lol. And as for tires on a size 18-19 what would be the best fitting you think? The dimensions of the tire or whatever thanks

[SloS14]

You will ruin the car with 19" wheels.

[Jonoraven93]

By ruined what do you mean? It's my everyday driving car. I'm just goin for a black out look so I'm not sure what would be best.

[FRiSson]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Every time you type "tryna" on the internet, God kills a kitten. If you install one of those eBay "Intake Turbos" then God will send his team of highly-trained, ninja hamsters to your house to tattoo, "I'm a complete IDIOT!" on your forehead.

And there is not such thing as "hp at a reasonable price" regardless of what you may have heard.

Scott

According the TRD marketing material, the TRD air filter adds horsepower. Since it is just $70, I would call that "hp at a reasonable price."

[CamryDS]

Originally Posted by Jonoraven93

By reasonable price I ment not top of the line most expensive. I have expierence driving and I know turbos and things arnt cheap but I also know there's some out there overcharging on there product for the output. Iv read through the forums quite well an iv ran into things where I don't understand the tuning language which is why I posted this. And to all you people Tryna make fun of my Internet talk I don't really care because you understood it anyways. Thanks more help instead of harassment would help.

Originally Posted by Jonoraven93

Ya stock I agree it's not the fastest, but it can most certainly be upgraded to make it there. I make quite swell money so it's not a problem I'm just trying to figure more out before I invest.

Originally Posted by Jonoraven93

Well title says it all, I don't really know to much about how a car works in depth. The fr-s is my first ever purchased vehicle and I'm looking to upgrade. Such as a faster 0-60 more torque and hp at reasonable price.. The more information the better. Also I'm lookin for new rims I'm Tryna go black on black. I'm thinkin 19's if they'll fit and wat would be the best fitting. Air intakes turbos, coil overs, whatever's the best an gets the most improvement, help me out I'm Tryna make this raven fly thanks

Your English makes me sad. At 20 you should be able to make an effort and correctly spell and make use of proper grammar.

Now with that moved aside... Anyway, want a fast car? Buy a fast car =) This car was not designed for straight roads in mind. Hit up some of the forums that talk about FI and Engine mods if you are looking into getting more HP/TQ. There places that tune your car for you and build custom turbos. Though, once you build a turbo for your car you may want to begin looking into getting a high perf clutch, and there from the clutch you need to upgrade your suspension so you can handle the speed. pretty much everything.

Think of it as balancing the car. good luck.

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by FRiSson

According the TRD marketing material, the TRD air filter adds horsepower. Since it is just $70, I would call that "hp at a reasonable price."

Key words "marketing material".

Here are some examples of "marketing material"
Injen claims 10-12hp with their intake on the FRS =
AirRaid clamed 10hp with their intake on the FRS =
The ebay electric supercharger claims 15-20% power increase =
And this is just off the top of my head...

Beware marketing material! It is usually

There are plenty of independent tests that are FRS-specific in the technical section.

FWIW: You are right though... a drop-in air filter has been proven to be the best value by FAR for gains in the FRS.

Scott

[CaptainSlow]

First step in any modification plan is research. Can't skirt that...have to do it yourself. Find what you want from the car and research each part, pros and cons.

Short version:

Any modification that lets the engine breath (inhale and exhale) easier will free up HP
Any modification that reduces rotating mass will free up power or increase acceleration (lighter wheels, pulleys, flywheel, etc)
Turbos are great for HP
Superchargers are great for torque
Any modification that really affects the engine should be followed by a tune
Be mindful of your fueling demands...throwing a ton of parts on the car isn't going to do anything good if your fuel system can't keep up
Keep in mind that as you put more strain on stock components they will fail faster
If you make your car ACCELERATE faster, you need to remember to make it STOP faster - don't forget the brakes

[Jonoraven93]

I understand that this car wasnt exactly ment for speed, but it can most certainly become faster then stock. It's my daily driver and iv had it for over half a year and just trying to get over the stock feeling

[naikaidriver]

Scott

[SloS14]

mebbe u shud reed tha foram 2 c whut kind uv modz u wood like phor yur ryde 2 make it wurse witch yew r inevidibly gunna doo.

[Jonoraven93]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

First step in any modification plan is research. Can't skirt that...have to do it yourself. Find what you want from the car and research each part, pros and cons.

Short version:

Any modification that lets the engine breath (inhale and exhale) easier will free up HP
Any modification that reduces rotating mass will free up HP (lighter wheels, lighter pulleys)
Turbos are great for HP
Superchargers are great for torque
Any modification that really affects the engine should be followed by a tune (basic air filters or axle-back exhausts don't really apply, as they don't change the system enough to really warrant a tune)

See information like this helps me understand a lot better, I'm a pretty quick learner and I catch on very quick so thank you for this information.