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Old 05-19-2014, 08:52 PM   #267
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The stock bushings have a slit forward, so that's how installed mine. I also tried them the other way just for kicks and it seemed the same.


Also bought the collars mentioned on page 11. Rotating the bar around, the collars didn't make any contact with the bushing brackets







Have the collars helped the feel? Any walking issues anymore?
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:43 PM   #268
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I don't have the front sway connected at this time, because I was troubleshooting an unrelated noise. But I also don't see how it could possibly walk with these collars.
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I bought the ones pictured above but they didn't arrive before I put the bar on so I used the ones Sam provided and gave them about 1/2" gap to the mounts. Haven't bothered putting the round stops on because the bar has been working fine for me, no rubbing, no noticeable walking and no binding/interference. Bar has been great although it must be said I think it's noticeable this bar was developed for FR-S spring rates, I haven't been able to dial out/drive around corner entry push on concrete thus far, though still very early in development, still have a long way to go.


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Bar has been great although it must be said I think it's noticeable this bar was developed for FR-S spring rates, I haven't been able to dial out/drive around corner entry push on concrete thus far, though still very early in development, still have a long way to go.
What are you using for a rear bar? I was fighting front end push as well most of the beginning of the season. I was following Andrew's setup from nationals last year but ended up going in my own direction. I feel that the increase in roll stiffness in the front is to unbalanced to keep the stock rear bar with the Stranos bar. I went to a 18mm whiteline rear on medium stiff (75% increase) to even the front and rear out. Car is MUCH easier to drive. I realize my car being in STX the spring rates become a factor but with the BRZ being a bit pushy from the start I wouldn't want to increase that further with a bigger bar and no rear.
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What are you using for a rear bar? I was fighting front end push as well most of the beginning of the season. I was following Andrew's setup from nationals last year but ended up going in my own direction. I feel that the increase in roll stiffness in the front is to unbalanced to keep the stock rear bar with the Stranos bar. I went to a 18mm whiteline rear on medium stiff (75% increase) to even the front and rear out. Car is MUCH easier to drive. I realize my car being in STX the spring rates become a factor but with the BRZ being a bit pushy from the start I wouldn't want to increase that further with a bigger bar and no rear.
I Run C-Street so I'm running OE rear. Did you change front to rear spring balance, or just increase proportionally?
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I Run C-Street so I'm running OE rear. Did you change front to rear spring balance, or just increase proportionally?
I am pretty close to the stock frequency ratio front to rear. Not the numbers I would like but I am going to wait to worry about that for now.
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I and a few friends like my setup so far with the Strano front bar and 16mm wrx rear bar. Spring rates are the Feal 7k-Fr 6k-Rr
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You know that this is the second softest aftermarket bar on the market right? It works great for my BRZ, no one that drives my car has understeer issues (it's always oversteer if anything).

What tires and pressures are you running? Also, what shock settings, assuming you're on Konis?
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You know that this is the second softest aftermarket bar on the market right? It works great for my BRZ, no one that drives my car has understeer issues (it's always oversteer if anything).

What tires and pressures are you running? Also, what shock settings, assuming you're on Konis?
Yup, that is why I went with it.

Here is my short build thread so far:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63918

So far my concrete settings are:
Front:
1/2 from soft
1/8 toe out
~1.15 degrees neg camber
33.5 PSI 235/40R17 ZII

Rear:
3/4 from soft
0 toe
~.85 degrees neg camber
29 PSI 235/40R17 ZII

At this point I still feel the pushiness has as much to do with my corner entry as it does with the car and it's setup. I am still carrying in a bit too much speed when I initiate the turn, and the car seems to punish you when you go in even just a little bit too hot. It washes away and even reducing steering angle and applying throttle doesn't seem to get it to neutralize out, just more and more push.

Quick comparison video of myself and co-driver from last weekend's Toledo event... my apologies, I had a little too much fun with iMovie.
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That's so odd. I have same tires, bar, shocks. I use 38F/33R, more rebound all around than you and slightly less toe out Front, and a good bit toe in in rear.

Only difference is I have just a slight bit more camber up front.

Here's me in Atlanta (pavement at ~55f, though decently sticky) this weekend. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDd33VDpxRI"]BRZ at Atlanta Match Tour, Saturdy 5-17-14 CS #99 - YouTube[/ame]
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That's so odd. I have same tires, bar, shocks. I use 38F/33R, more rebound all around than you and slightly less toe out Front, and a good bit toe in in rear.

Only difference is I have just a slight bit more camber up front.

Here's me in Atlanta (pavement at ~55f, though decently sticky) this weekend.
yea it is interesting... my car is extremely loose on power exiting corners on asphalt, but it's so pushy on corner entry on concrete I cant really get to apply throttle early because I'm waiting for the car to get pointed.
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