Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[R3NIK]

Installed today. Have to fix a sheered intake manifold bolt before having any fun

[Khorne]

Originally Posted by R3NIK

Any recommendations on must-have gauges after I finish my install tonight?
I was thinking this would be the cleanest install and cover the essentials (boost, oil temp, AFR).

I need to do more research, but it also seems I can pull a lot of this info into Torque via my bluetooth ODB2 adapter.
Thoughts?

I went with this setup. Oil temp and boost on the tanabe gauges and oil temp and afr on the P3 vent. The P3 requires an analog wideband to do afr.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Chad86

@jflogerzi How does JDL compare to PTuning kit?

@stockysnail How long have you been running the 210? Any issues or regrets not going turbo?

I've had it about a year and no major issues so far. I just need to make sure the oil level in the supercharger stays full which I check and add a little each month. I also had to change the belt once. I did buy the setup used and the guy before me had it on for 3-5k miles, but I'd still think the belt would have lasted longer before squeaking than the 15-20k miles that it did. My intercooler was leaking coolant, but that was just because the hose clam needed adjusting. There is peace of mind staying natural aspirated in that you don't have additional parts to maintain and worry about, regardless of which force induction solution, which I kind of miss.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by R3NIK

Any recommendations on must-have gauges after I finish my install tonight?
I was thinking this would be the cleanest install and cover the essentials (boost, oil temp, AFR).

I need to do more research, but it also seems I can pull a lot of this info into Torque via my bluetooth ODB2 adapter.
Thoughts?

Here's what I have. Oil pressure in the vent and everything else in the ScangaugeII. I would have just used only the scangauge but the ecu doesn't have an oil pressure sensor I can load into the scan gauge. After market is needed. I have oil temp, air temp, water temp, and air fuel ratio.

[Chad86]

Originally Posted by Khorne

I went with this setup. Oil temp and boost on the tanabe gauges and oil temp and afr on the P3 vent. The P3 requires an analog wideband to do afr.

This must be your video. Thanks! Did you use the included mount and can you fit a third or fourth clustered gauge at the defrost vent location?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr0teRqYaxU"]86 Tanabe gauge startup - YouTube[/ame]

[toast]

Do any owners of this kit NOT have to add oil routinely? It seems strange that Sprintex specs a 20K oil change and yet people are finding their chargers empty after 5K.

[Cards2323]

Originally Posted by toast

Do any owners of this kit NOT have to add oil routinely? It seems strange that Sprintex specs a 20K oil change and yet people are finding their chargers empty after 5K.

Seems to be an issue with most, its something that has somewhat turned me away from the kit...

[xxscaxx]

It really shouldn't Its not that big of a deal honestly. Its good practice anyways to keep an eye on the level of the oil. I do it usually every other oil change.

Decided that i'm going to be selling my kit for anyone that is interested.

[Khorne]

Originally Posted by Chad86

This must be your video. Thanks! Did you use the included mount and can you fit a third or fourth clustered gauge at the defrost vent location?

Yup that is me.
Did not use the supplied pods, the pod is from Block8head he makes a single, double and triple pod.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by xxscaxx

It really shouldn't Its not that big of a deal honestly. Its good practice anyways to keep an eye on the level of the oil. I do it usually every other oil change.

Decided that i'm going to be selling my kit for anyone that is interested.

I think his concern, much like mine, is: Where is that oil going, and why? It's either being burned or leaking. Neither is really an ideal scenario. If you were finding your engine oil depleting at the rate some are seeing, wouldn't you be concerned? If the SC is truly a sealed unit like say a differential, there should be no leakage.

Has anyone tested to see if it's a pressure issue? Maybe the oil is frothing and causing positive pressure which is forcing it past the seals? Perhaps installing a small breather valve in the SC fill hole might relieve that pressure and prevent any leaks? An easy way to test would be to install a barbed fitting in the fill hole and run a hose to a boost/vac gauge to see what happens under spirited driving.

[xxscaxx]

I guess you have never owned a Subaru motor before which are known for burning oil I understand the concern but there has been 0 issues (that I've seen at least) with this. There was one fellow who had it leaking from the pulley in the front of the charger but that's the only case I know of.

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx

I guess you have never owned a Subaru motor before which are known for burning oil I understand the concern but there has been 0 issues (that I've seen at least) with this. There was one fellow who had it leaking from the pulley in the front of the charger but that's the only case I know of.

Nope, only American cars that leak from everywhere else.

I do remember somewhere back in the thread someone had pics of oil all over the IC core. That led me to believe possible screw seal leaks.

Dying for one of these kits though.

[jwvand02]

I've got something I want to throw out to the group to get some opinions, educated or otherwise.

When I first installed my kit, I was getting CELs and sometimes limp mode, but it felt like a goddamn rocket ship (E85 w/ 70mm pulley).

As it turns out, the codes were for too lean, and I went back to check all vacuum connections etc. until I discovered that the intake was barely holding on to the throttle body. The hose clamps I used on the heater hose stopped the bottom of the intake from getting on all the way, and I'm pretty sure it was sucking in a good deal of unmetered air through that gap, explaining why my fuel trims were wacky and throwing lean codes.

Well, since I've gotten that fixed, the car doesn't feel as fast anymore . I theorized that it had learned to dump tons of fuel in to fix the lean condition and was probably running pretty rich, so I removed the negative cable overnight to reset the ECU.

It feels better, but not as good as it did at first. My questions:

1) Have I maybe just become accustomed to the power already?
2) Did that extra air and fuel just create more power at probably the expense of engine longevity?
3) Does this kit benefit from freeing up the intake beyond the stock airbox?

An unrelated question - anybody have opinions on the tunes from Moto-East versus Delicious, specifically for E85?

[Chad86]

Are the Tanabe gauges too bright at night? I am thinking to go with the Block8head triple vent setup and possibly the Cravenspeed dual pod steering column mount. This way I can have all 5 Tanabe gauges. Is this overkill for monitoring or do I only really need three gauges?