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Wait to purchase an UEL header until a emisssion legal version has been released | 65 | 85.53% | |
Purchase a catless UEL header regardless of vehicle code | 11 | 14.47% | |
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05-23-2013, 07:41 PM | #1 |
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Catted UEL Header
The boxer rumble is one of the most recognizable engine sounds in the automotive world. You don't even have to turn around to know that a Subaru passed you by when you hear that deep growl. This is a sound that our FA20 motors could definitely benefit from. Yes there are non-catted versions, but these solutions ignore the majority of the incredible aftermarket that exists in California and other states with strict vehicle emission regulations. To my knowledge, no catted UEL solutions exist at this point.
My objective with this post is to try to start drumming up attention for the need of a catted, UEL header for the BRZ & FRS. I know this is something that would be more appropriately placed in the "exhaust, transmission..." section but I wanted to place this here to get the most exposure for both interested adopters and potential fabricators that can appreciate the benefit of being first to market. The squeaky wheel gets oiled right?
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And wouldn't the system use the OEM cats anyway? |
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http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...ftermktcat.htm "Aftermarket catalytic converters must be exempted from California's anti-tampering laws in order to be legally sold and installed in the state. If an aftermarket catalytic converter is shown to be durable and meets vehicle emission control requirements, it is granted an exemption Executive Order (EO) that allows it to be installed on specific emission controlled vehicles." |
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I would be interested in a catted UEL!!!!!!!
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If CA still allows for some aftermarket replacement cats, is it possible that a header manufacturer can pair up with an approved replacement cat producer to create a state approved header?
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I seem to recall CARB approval costing many thousands of dollars--as in more than the car actually costs. I can't speak from first hand experience, however.
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Just run stuff with cats. Then come inspection time, just swap back to stock.
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Even if someone makes a catted header, will anyone CARB certify it?
I don't think I've seen a WRX catted downpipe with a CARB sticker - making it illegal in CA (and maybe other states). Same issue with the header - even if someone does a catted version, it only helps the air, not the legality of the car in CA. I'm uneducated on the header cat - is it like a pre-cat for early emission controls before the main cat(s?) are heated/operating? Ie, once the engine/exhaust is warm, does this car help reduce pollution or is redundant? I'd love to get more boxer rumble from this car for sure! |
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I'm afraid the only option for you is to vote out those fascist assholes in your state government.
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