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Old 10-07-2014, 06:13 PM   #1989
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Good advice. May want to add front camber bolts before the alignment.
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I think most people don't put wings on these cars (at least for functional track purposes). Aerodynamically these cars are pretty good in stock form so it isn't as needed as other cars. That said I am sure some people have put functional wings on them and I there are people going more for looks who have "wings" on their cars.

I think the big question would be, what issue are you trying to solve with the wing?
I'm looking to increase downforce to increase rear grip while cornering (exit).
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Old 10-07-2014, 08:30 PM   #1991
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I'm looking to increase downforce to increase rear grip while cornering (exit).
At what speeds? Whats your current setup?

An LSD will universally increase grip, whereas a wing will increase rear grip as speed increases. It depends on what you 're doing with it.
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Mike,

I remember a post/discussion from a long time ago that a muffler delete/single exit exhaust made the rear end jittery since the muffler is integrated with the airflow moving under the car and out the back. Just wanted to see if that was true or if im misremembering things? If so, whats the best way to offset it? I know diffuser would probably be the answer but allocating points in TTD probably wont let me....
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM   #1993
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Many aftermarket cat-back designs create a gap in the underbody —previously filled by the stock muffler— that traps the air flowing from the front, creating drag. This can be offset by installing a diffuser.

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Many aftermarket cat-back designs create a gap in the underbody —previously filled by the stock muffler— that traps the air flowing from the front, creating drag. This can be offset by installing a diffuser.

See this thread.
Thanks. I forgot to mention but as my plans for now have me staying in TTD a diffuser is points im not willing to spend.....
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Mike,

I remember a post/discussion from a long time ago that a muffler delete/single exit exhaust made the rear end jittery since the muffler is integrated with the airflow moving under the car and out the back. Just wanted to see if that was true or if im misremembering things? If so, whats the best way to offset it? I know diffuser would probably be the answer but allocating points in TTD probably wont let me....
Stick to the stock exhaust in TTD unless the exhaust itself is the restriction in your setup.
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APR and Voltex are the two go-to options, and we sell both
Hey Mike, I know very little about wings, but Brooks seems to be pretty popular around here. What do APR and Voltex have that Brooks doesn't?
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Hey Mike, I know very little about wings, but Brooks seems to be pretty popular around here. What do APR and Voltex have that Brooks doesn't?
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Brooks is a local company with small distribution and products for club racers; APR and Voltex are global companies that both have product that compete at the elite levels.

When the price of Brooks and APR/Voltex are similar, most people will go with the proven name.

Brooks will point out that their wings are "PhD designed". APR and Voltex provide results with the top cars at WTAC sporting their aero. Oh, and they also do wind tunnel and CFD analysis, and occasionally release data when it's not deemed a trade secret.
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Totally random note and not doing this anytime soon....if you removed the A/C could you just buy a shorter belt or would that throw off the balance/timing of the engine? I know the usual option is to buy a bracket and a pulley to fill in for the missing A/C.
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Old 10-10-2014, 11:48 PM   #1999
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Totally random note and not doing this anytime soon....if you removed the A/C could you just buy a shorter belt or would that throw off the balance/timing of the engine? I know the usual option is to buy a bracket and a pulley to fill in for the missing A/C.
Bit of info here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43060
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59950
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Copying this post that I left in the P0351 ignition coil thread as it seems this issue is much more prevelant with tracked cars.

Failing coil replaced, car runs up to redline with no issues anymore!

Wanted to share some additional perspective on this:

Cel started coming on more frequently during daily driving, 6000 rpm would activate it.

Gas mileage had dropped to below 23 mpg average

Car would hesitate and sputter (stalled once) as you pulled to a stop and seemed sluggish in general.

Strange fuel smell in the cabin especially with the fan on high. Possibly unburned fuel??

During the couple sessions that I ran with the cel there was a profound change in the traction / stability control. I had turned it off with the 5 second switch but it was really nuts whenever I had high rpm high g load corners. Motor cut and rear brakes grabbed to the extent that I nearly lost it.

With the new coil, all of these street issues are gone and it feels like I am running the E85 tune compared to how the car was running up till now. The power difference is enough to tell the difference. Even the exhaust note standing outside the car at idle sounds different.

It would appear that when a coil gets this bad, there are multiple symptoms present even if the cel is intermittent.
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Copying this post that I left in the P0351 ignition coil thread as it seems this issue is much more prevelant with tracked cars.

Failing coil replaced, car runs up to redline with no issues anymore!

Wanted to share some additional perspective on this:

Cel started coming on more frequently during daily driving, 6000 rpm would activate it.

Gas mileage had dropped to below 23 mpg average

Car would hesitate and sputter (stalled once) as you pulled to a stop and seemed sluggish in general.

Strange fuel smell in the cabin especially with the fan on high. Possibly unburned fuel??

During the couple sessions that I ran with the cel there was a profound change in the traction / stability control. I had turned it off with the 5 second switch but it was really nuts whenever I had high rpm high g load corners. Motor cut and rear brakes grabbed to the extent that I nearly lost it.

With the new coil, all of these street issues are gone and it feels like I am running the E85 tune compared to how the car was running up till now. The power difference is enough to tell the difference. Even the exhaust note standing outside the car at idle sounds different.

It would appear that when a coil gets this bad, there are multiple symptoms present even if the cel is intermittent.
So did you only see issues at high RPM or did it idle differently, etc.?
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I had turned it off with the 5 second switch but it was really nuts whenever I had high rpm high g load corners. Motor cut and rear brakes grabbed to the extent that I nearly lost it.
The pedal dance will address that part...
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