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Old 01-29-2019, 08:00 PM   #71
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All you need to know is that the 86 and BRZ are done.
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LOL, there are now TRD versions of the Camry and Avalon. The 86 is the unwanted bastard child.

TRD Camry


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Granted the sales for the 86/BRZ are declining. However if you look at the direct competitor the MX-5 the sales figures are not that different.

By this I mean the sale figures in 2018 for the MX5 in the US is not that far off the 86 and BRZ combined. We are talking roughly 1000 units difference give or take.

Now this is combining the sales of the BRZ and 86 in the US in 2018 and comparing it against the MX-5.

In 2018 the MX-5 sold 8,971 units
The BRZ sold 3,834 units
The 86 sold 4,133 units

Total Twins sales = 7,967 vs the MX-5 selling 8,971 units

So what this means... lol I dunno just thought I'd share this info, might not even be that correct. Didn't exactly research it more than a few mins.
And that more than doubles the numbers for the Nissan 370Z!
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The 86/BRZ is the best selling Japanese RWD 2-door of the last 10 years, if you go back 20 years the only car in the category that sold better was the 350Z and NB Miata.

I'm not optimistic it'll get a second life, but I wouldn't call it a failure, more of 'proof that the internet doesn't actually buy the cars they say they want'


When I purchased my IS300 my criteria was:
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That basically left me with one option, the IS300.

When I picked up the FRS I had literally the same criteria only I was willing to budge on it being Japanese. That left me with zero options other than an M3. So I budged on the extra two doors as long at it had rear seats. Which left me with one option, a Twin. The Twins may have sold well in the segment but what other options are there (not including the Miata because it doesnít have rear seats)?
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LOL, there are now TRD versions of the Camry and Avalon. The 86 is the unwanted bastard child.

TRD Camry


TRD Avalon

Itís all so clear now..the three brothers= TRD Camry, TRD Avalon, and BMW Supra. Amazing work, Toyota.


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The Twins may have sold well in the segment but what other options are there (not including the Miata because it doesnít have rear seats)?

This right here. If you need back seats at all, there is no alternative on the market. The closest thing would be a Genesis coupe or a 230i, but both of those are 500lbs+ over the twins, so that's a non starter for a sports car for me.
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This right here. If you need back seats at all, there is no alternative on the market. The closest thing would be a Genesis coupe or a 230i, but both of those are 500lbs+ over the twins, so that's a non starter for a sports car for me.


And no LSD which I think people severely undervalue.
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