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View Poll Results: Which of the following options have you decided upon for this much discussed Gen1 201 | |||
No torque dip specific modifications: It doesn't bother me. | 67 | 25.38% | |
No torque dip specific modifications: I don't want any potential future warranty issues due to mods. | 26 | 9.85% | |
OFT tune | 28 | 10.61% | |
UEL Header (Which one?) | 14 | 5.30% | |
UEL header + OFT tune | 100 | 37.88% | |
Something else: Please specify. | 19 | 7.20% | |
Wait for the performance results of the 2017 model before deciding. | 10 | 3.79% | |
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06-24-2016, 02:35 PM | #44 |
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1. The twins are not a very common a car. Where can one typically rent one other than perhaps a dealer? 2. Is there a torque dip solution that won't affect the warranty or emissions testing and that won't increase the cabin noise level or attract unwanted attention due to a loud exhaust system? 3. How much should I budget for such a solution? Thanks |
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Jesus, please listen to @Mim. If you haven't even driven this car yet, and are already complaining about the torque dip based on other peoples opinions then you aren't looking at this car the right way, or doing proper research into purchasing a +$24k asset. You've essentially wasted everyone's time by complaining about something you haven't felt in person yet, also your opinion during the test drive may be tainted by the fact you'll be looking for the torque dip the entire time.
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06-25-2016, 03:16 PM | #48 |
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FRSBRZGT86FAN, Please understand, I'm not complaining. I'm asking questions because I'm interested. The FR-S / BRZ are very appealing and have many positive qualities. I understand they're fun-to-drive sporty cars as opposed to expensive gas-guzzling high-performance sports cars. I'm looking for a reliable, affordable, fun-to-drive sporty car. As a life-long Toyota customer, I'm very pleased Toyota and Subaru have collaborated to offer the FR-S/BRZ.
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To me, the torque dip is a minor annoyance. Daily driving around town, where I don't generally feel like revving the snot out of it, I think my stock BRZ has a nice amount of torque but I wish the useable torque band was a bit wider, i.e. I regularly shift just as the engine reaches the dip. Driving at higher speed on the highway, where I don't mind ringing it out, the torque is just fine.
The torque dip is only a big deal if you get caught in the wrong gear and need to accelerate. So the trick is not to get caught in the wrong gear! This car really makes you pay attention.
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The only time I've felt the torque dip is during autocross where I am forced to slow down into a hard corner or risk running into cones. RPMs drop under the where the dip begins then once I straighten out, I mash the pedal and away I go.
Other than that, it really is no big deal especially if you are simply canyon carving or commuting. |
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You realize there is nothing broken about the car? Hundreds of thousands of people from around the world drive the car stock and are totally satisfied. I care about factory warranty, but still viewed all the mods in my signature as having negligible impact on it and some change the handling, throttle response and improve acceleration, but introduce no added emissions or NVH. At the end of the day any mod can effect your factory warranty. If still wanting to go ahead and mod anyway then its a game of performing due diligence around what impact a mod will have on the car's reliability and if it's worth the risk of making it. For instance I will not touch the ECU so flashing is out of the question. This, by extension, rules out going for headers, which remove the torque dip. Risks with moding can also be mitigated by having professionals install the top quality parts you purchase. Everyone's view on acceptable risk is different, but at the end of the day if this is going to be a daily driver then wait for the MY17 cars and just buy the latest most up to date iteration and enjoy it as is. It has quite a few updates over the past releases and will likely keep you happy for the handful of years its covered by warranty.
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When I updated the final drive ratio it was specifically to increase low down torque and improve throttle response, not anything to do with fixing the dip, but in retrospect it helped mask it to an extent as each gear became shorter / accelerated faster. The tiny torque dip window effectively became smaller and less noticeable.
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