BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Lighting Red · 05-02-2012, 10:38 PM

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Need I say more?

Edit: Yes, I will say more. It looks like the Mustang's almost $2,000 'Track Pack', 105 more HP, and 129 more lb-ft is only good for an advantage of roughly 1.5 around Willow Springs. That is not a tight track. Most impressive. GO BRZ, GO! But how does the review conclude? Quite nicely, actually....

:happy0180:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA&feature=g-u-u"]Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang! - Head 2 Head Episode 7 - YouTube[/ame]

Eureka · 05-02-2012, 10:43 PM

Great find, thanks!

crash · 05-02-2012, 10:57 PM

very nice, thank you

86'd · 05-02-2012, 10:58 PM

Bwhahahah!!! Awesome!

I really do like the Mustang and with the track pack its about the same price as an FRS.

But it makes me think that without the pack the mustang would be slower around that track too...

That's not important to me anyway. I want a car that's fun, small and light with a good shifter and those are things that the Mustang ultimately doesn't have.

blacknbean · 05-02-2012, 11:00 PM

sick review..this needs to be a sticky in the vs forum lol

DarkSunrise · 05-02-2012, 11:03 PM

Very entertaining to watch. Thanks for posting.

You could see the end result coming from a mile away though. The Mustang is a bigger, taller, heavier car with a live rear axle and more power... a muscle car. The BRZ is a low-slung, lightweight proper sports car. Not really a fair competition, they were designed with different goals in mind from the start.

Eureka · 05-02-2012, 11:03 PM

Interesting to see how the same driver (Randy Pobst) able to actually post FASTER lap time with the BRZ (1:30.32) vs. the FRS (1:31.15) as shown previously in the ignition episode of the FRS review. This really confuses me as we all saw the previous onboard comparisons of the two cars on Tsukuba?(dont remember) by Japanese drivers where the 86 beats the BRZ ever so slightly. I guess this just proves that neither car is faster or slower. All up to the driver's style (grip vs drift)

Spaceywilly · 05-02-2012, 11:05 PM

Awesome vid. Motor trend is really killing it with these video reviews

kwood9000 · 05-02-2012, 11:06 PM

Nice video! Can't wait to get my BRZ!

knoxviue · 05-02-2012, 11:08 PM

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA"]Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang! - Head 2 Head Episode 7 - YouTube[/ame]

bestwheelbase · 05-02-2012, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka

Interesting to see how the same driver (Randy Pobst) able to actually post FASTER lap time with the BRZ (1:30.32) vs. the FRS (1:31.15) as shown previously in the ignition episode of the FRS review. This really confuses me as we all saw the previous onboard comparisons of the two cars on Tsukuba?(dont remember) by Japanese drivers where the 86 beats the BRZ ever so slightly. I guess this just proves that neither car is faster or slower. All up to the driver's style (grip vs drift)

Perhaps the more important takeaway from Randy's feedback is how he described the driving experience. The lap in the FRS was more lively. Do the FRS and BRZ come equipped with the same tires?

M-17 · 05-02-2012, 11:14 PM

That's pretty much what I was exactly expecting from this review.

And dude is tall, I'm surprised he fit in the BRZ and still liked it.

Lighting Red · 05-02-2012, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka

Interesting to see how the same driver (Randy Pobst) able to actually post FASTER lap time with the BRZ (1:30.32) vs. the FRS (1:31.15) as shown previously in the ignition episode of the FRS review. This really confuses me as we all saw the previous onboard comparisons of the two cars on Tsukuba?(dont remember) by Japanese drivers where the 86 beats the BRZ ever so slightly. I guess this just proves that neither car is faster or slower. All up to the driver's style (grip vs drift)

Which is a larger circuit? I am willing to bet that the BRZ has the advantage on larger tracks that favor grip.

Lighting Red · 05-02-2012, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Perhaps the more important takeaway from Randy's feedback is how he described the driving experience. The lap in the FRS was more lively. Do the FRS and BRZ come equipped with the same tires?

They do come with the same tires.

05-02-2012, 10:38 PM	#1
Lighting Red Habitual Line Crosser. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ^ Two of my favorite things. Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 327 Thanks: 115 Thanked 166 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for. *FT86CLUB Homepage Featured Story* Need I say more? Edit: Yes, I will say more. It looks like the Mustang's almost $2,000 'Track Pack', 105 more HP, and 129 more lb-ft is only good for an advantage of roughly 1.5 around Willow Springs. That is not a tight track. Most impressive. GO BRZ, GO! But how does the review conclude? Quite nicely, actually.... :happy0180: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA&feature=g-u-u"]Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang! - Head 2 Head Episode 7 - YouTube[/ame] __________________ But, but, but... It's only 200 hp?! Last edited by Lighting Red; 05-03-2012 at 05:16 PM.

05-02-2012, 11:05 PM	#8
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Awesome vid. Motor trend is really killing it with these video reviews __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

05-02-2012, 11:08 PM	#10
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Eureka Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: None... yet! Location: Toronto Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Great find, thanks!

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crash Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Orlando Posts: 45 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	very nice, thank you

05-02-2012, 10:58 PM	#4
86'd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2012 WRX Sedan Location: Los Angeles Posts: 511 Thanks: 25 Thanked 97 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bwhahahah!!! Awesome! I really do like the Mustang and with the track pack its about the same price as an FRS. But it makes me think that without the pack the mustang would be slower around that track too... That's not important to me anyway. I want a car that's fun, small and light with a good shifter and those are things that the Mustang ultimately doesn't have.

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blacknbean Butterscotch Boss Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: 335i Location: SF Posts: 71 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	sick review..this needs to be a sticky in the vs forum lol

05-02-2012, 11:03 PM	#6
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Very entertaining to watch. Thanks for posting. You could see the end result coming from a mile away though. The Mustang is a bigger, taller, heavier car with a live rear axle and more power... a muscle car. The BRZ is a low-slung, lightweight proper sports car. Not really a fair competition, they were designed with different goals in mind from the start.

05-02-2012, 11:06 PM	#9
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