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raven1231 · 09-12-2013, 09:45 AM

I heard they were going to put the 5.0 liter engine in from the old fox body mustangs

Aki · 09-19-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayme

The FA20's power output and torque curve is already much better than what you and alot of people think it is. And bumping the displacement always bring the gas consumption up, larger pumping loss and more displacement requires more fuel to get a correct stoic - air/fuel remains at cruise speed.

A gasoline engine has always compromises. When's the last time we saw a high reving 4 banger with tons of torque NA? It's either one or the other.

When it comes down to it, I don't care about the dyno curve, or what the actual numerical value for ft/lbs of torque is. Nor do I want "tons of torque"--I love the Si engine, and that's a torque-less wonder.

I just want the engine to feel "fun"--and that deadspot definitely isn't. It's as though the car's always bogging at 4k. Granted the rest of the car is a ball of fun (chassis, suspension tuning, lightness, etc), but my point again is it's the characteristic of the engine, not the power that's the issue. Output for output sake doesn't necessarily fix the issue.

Razz · 09-19-2013, 02:45 PM

Remember he is only hoping it will happen and they are only doing testing.

DMDominator · 09-19-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

I heard they were going to put the 5.0 liter engine in from the old fox body mustangs

Good old 5 point slow!

topazsparrow · 09-19-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayme

Removing the torque dip would mean a flat torque curve, good luck finding an NA engine with a flat torque curve in a cheap car. The reason of that dip is because of the direction injection, it makes a really good job creating torque in the very low RPM and makes up for lower air intake velocity, (unlike most traditional high reving engine with only port injection) and you're wrong about the S2000, it lost its signature 9000 RPM redline by 1000 RPM. That's more than 10% of it's previous redline with ZERO horsepower gain...but more torque because of the added stroke.

Actually you've got that backwards. It doesn't even use DI in the lower RPM's from what the toyota documentation states. It's Port injection in the lower RPM's and then the DI comes on around 3k.

italy7 · 01-13-2014, 06:40 PM

Wow, finally finished reading this whole 'thread'. Yes i want a cookie

Anyways, i think at this point having held off on a purchase it's best to wait and see what MY2015 brings...if nothing major well leftover '14 would be just fine.

86-tundra · 01-13-2014, 06:43 PM

Why necro this thread... why...

regal · 01-14-2014, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by trevorovert

Why necro this thread... why...

Because we are one day closer to a version of the FA20T under the hood.

86-tundra · 01-14-2014, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by regal

Because we are one day closer to a version of the FA20T under the hood.

Read my lips, no new turbo!

italy7 · 01-14-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by trevorovert

Read my lips, no new turbo!

Maybe, or maybe bored out as mentioned in this thread...

gt8613 · 01-25-2014, 01:53 AM

2015 300 hp brz spied 😄

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Whitigir · 01-25-2014, 07:38 AM

Nice try...but i love guessing....that is a 450hp car...

Corvette....c7

Do you see the quad pipe ? Yeah...please do more pics like this

thill · 01-25-2014, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitigir

Nice try...but i love guessing....that is a 450hp car...

Corvette....c7

Do you see the quad pipe ? Yeah...please do more pics like this

Looks like a C7 for sure. Amazing car...

ericw2k · 01-27-2014, 08:06 PM

nice

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